1 00:00:07,749 --> 00:00:04,789 good afternoon everyone and welcome to 2 00:00:09,430 --> 00:00:07,759 the sts-132 post-launch news conference 3 00:00:11,669 --> 00:00:09,440 we're very pleased to be here today and 4 00:00:13,110 --> 00:00:11,679 to be joined by our panel uh we'll begin 5 00:00:14,870 --> 00:00:13,120 with opening comments and then we'll be 6 00:00:16,790 --> 00:00:14,880 happy to take your questions 7 00:00:18,950 --> 00:00:16,800 like to introduce mr bill gerstenmaier 8 00:00:22,070 --> 00:00:18,960 nasa's associate administrator for space 9 00:00:24,710 --> 00:00:22,080 operations good afternoon 10 00:00:28,870 --> 00:00:24,720 alexi krasnoff chief of piloted programs 11 00:00:33,750 --> 00:00:30,950 mike moses chairman of the pre-launch 12 00:00:35,750 --> 00:00:33,760 mission management team good afternoon 13 00:00:38,069 --> 00:00:35,760 and mike leinbach shuttle launch 14 00:00:41,270 --> 00:00:38,079 director good afternoon and we'll begin 15 00:00:43,270 --> 00:00:41,280 with mr gerstenmaier thanks mike 16 00:00:45,670 --> 00:00:43,280 again i'd like to really thank the team 17 00:00:47,830 --> 00:00:45,680 here at kennedy that just gave us a 18 00:00:49,430 --> 00:00:47,840 great launch today 19 00:00:51,430 --> 00:00:49,440 all the work that led up to this launch 20 00:00:53,990 --> 00:00:51,440 was just phenomenal the the atlantis 21 00:00:55,670 --> 00:00:54,000 team just did a great job of 22 00:00:57,430 --> 00:00:55,680 processing the vehicle out of the launch 23 00:00:59,029 --> 00:00:57,440 pad if you remember it was a little hard 24 00:01:00,470 --> 00:00:59,039 to get out to the launch pad and it took 25 00:01:02,470 --> 00:01:00,480 several days to get out there and then 26 00:01:03,990 --> 00:01:02,480 they had a pretty compressed flow once 27 00:01:05,590 --> 00:01:04,000 they got out on the launch pad and you 28 00:01:07,990 --> 00:01:05,600 know we held one contingency day for 29 00:01:10,070 --> 00:01:08,000 multiple weeks and it just worked out 30 00:01:11,670 --> 00:01:10,080 great the team stayed focused they just 31 00:01:13,910 --> 00:01:11,680 kept moving forward and they just did a 32 00:01:16,149 --> 00:01:13,920 great job and i'd also like to thank the 33 00:01:17,590 --> 00:01:16,159 external tank team that gave us a great 34 00:01:19,190 --> 00:01:17,600 external tank 35 00:01:21,190 --> 00:01:19,200 we had a couple little foam losses 36 00:01:22,149 --> 00:01:21,200 pretty typical to what we've seen before 37 00:01:24,149 --> 00:01:22,159 nothing 38 00:01:26,469 --> 00:01:24,159 real significant we had maybe one little 39 00:01:28,550 --> 00:01:26,479 piece before the aerodynamic sensitive 40 00:01:31,350 --> 00:01:28,560 time but it looked really good but again 41 00:01:33,190 --> 00:01:31,360 the tank team many months ago and many 42 00:01:34,789 --> 00:01:33,200 you know a long time ago gave us a great 43 00:01:36,710 --> 00:01:34,799 tank to do this and so did the solid 44 00:01:38,630 --> 00:01:36,720 rocket booster team so the folks have 45 00:01:40,550 --> 00:01:38,640 given it given us a great launch the 46 00:01:42,630 --> 00:01:40,560 vehicle looks like it's in really clean 47 00:01:44,149 --> 00:01:42,640 shape we're ready to go do a pretty 48 00:01:46,149 --> 00:01:44,159 challenging mission in front of us the 49 00:01:48,230 --> 00:01:46,159 evas will be tough the installation of 50 00:01:49,670 --> 00:01:48,240 the russian module will be challenging 51 00:01:51,510 --> 00:01:49,680 so we need to stay focused on the 52 00:01:52,870 --> 00:01:51,520 mission in front of us but getting to 53 00:01:54,310 --> 00:01:52,880 this point i can't thank the teams 54 00:01:56,709 --> 00:01:54,320 enough for all the great work they've 55 00:01:58,310 --> 00:01:56,719 done and it was just a real pleasure to 56 00:01:59,830 --> 00:01:58,320 watch the launch today and to have the 57 00:02:01,109 --> 00:01:59,840 wonderful weather we had for the launch 58 00:02:02,389 --> 00:02:01,119 so thank you 59 00:02:05,350 --> 00:02:02,399 alexi 60 00:02:08,070 --> 00:02:05,360 oh thank you bill i would like to join 61 00:02:13,990 --> 00:02:08,080 uh 62 00:02:18,949 --> 00:02:14,000 launch 63 00:02:21,190 --> 00:02:18,959 a first first time it's 64 00:02:23,589 --> 00:02:21,200 every time is uh as a 65 00:02:26,790 --> 00:02:23,599 as a new experience and we 66 00:02:28,070 --> 00:02:26,800 planned for this launch on the may 14 67 00:02:30,550 --> 00:02:28,080 uh 68 00:02:32,470 --> 00:02:30,560 thinking about as we'll said like a 69 00:02:33,270 --> 00:02:32,480 miracle that it will go 70 00:02:36,229 --> 00:02:33,280 uh 71 00:02:38,869 --> 00:02:36,239 exactly this day because we pre-planned 72 00:02:41,910 --> 00:02:38,879 uh two months ago a deputy prime 73 00:02:43,910 --> 00:02:41,920 minister visited to for kennedy and to 74 00:02:45,910 --> 00:02:43,920 jsc as well 75 00:02:48,470 --> 00:02:45,920 and it worked 76 00:02:49,270 --> 00:02:48,480 and it looks like that 77 00:02:53,350 --> 00:02:49,280 that 78 00:02:55,830 --> 00:02:53,360 me again 79 00:02:57,670 --> 00:02:55,840 i i am capable because the two 80 00:03:00,070 --> 00:02:57,680 maybe two thirds of the launches were 81 00:03:01,589 --> 00:03:00,080 postponed by the weather or hardware but 82 00:03:04,309 --> 00:03:01,599 the monster worked 83 00:03:06,949 --> 00:03:04,319 exactly as planned and today it worked 84 00:03:08,470 --> 00:03:06,959 exactly as planned and it's really great 85 00:03:10,630 --> 00:03:08,480 thank you 86 00:03:12,229 --> 00:03:10,640 well good afternoon everyone we had a 87 00:03:13,430 --> 00:03:12,239 beautiful launch countdown 88 00:03:15,509 --> 00:03:13,440 really clean 89 00:03:16,790 --> 00:03:15,519 flow not a whole lot to talk about at 90 00:03:18,790 --> 00:03:16,800 all 91 00:03:20,470 --> 00:03:18,800 it uh and ended up with that with that 92 00:03:22,070 --> 00:03:20,480 beautiful picture-perfect launch and 93 00:03:24,070 --> 00:03:22,080 nice blue sky out there you know we 94 00:03:26,550 --> 00:03:24,080 talked a lot about the weather uh our 95 00:03:28,470 --> 00:03:26,560 rtls and our local launch weather here 96 00:03:30,550 --> 00:03:28,480 really wasn't an issue we had the the 97 00:03:31,910 --> 00:03:30,560 weather aircraft up flying around just 98 00:03:33,589 --> 00:03:31,920 to make sure there were some clouds that 99 00:03:34,949 --> 00:03:33,599 were forming out over the ocean and and 100 00:03:36,630 --> 00:03:34,959 just wanted to be sure they were staying 101 00:03:38,229 --> 00:03:36,640 up high and out of our way and and they 102 00:03:39,830 --> 00:03:38,239 were so we really didn't have to talk 103 00:03:41,270 --> 00:03:39,840 the local weather here much at all 104 00:03:43,270 --> 00:03:41,280 overseas we spent a little bit of time 105 00:03:44,309 --> 00:03:43,280 talking about our our transatlantic 106 00:03:46,710 --> 00:03:44,319 abort 107 00:03:47,910 --> 00:03:46,720 landing site weather um but at the end 108 00:03:49,670 --> 00:03:47,920 you know we kind of knew we would be in 109 00:03:51,430 --> 00:03:49,680 this situation where the forecasts were 110 00:03:53,030 --> 00:03:51,440 showing some low ceilings and some 111 00:03:55,350 --> 00:03:53,040 chances of showers but as we got closer 112 00:03:56,550 --> 00:03:55,360 to launch time uh the observations and 113 00:03:58,710 --> 00:03:56,560 the forecasters were able to update 114 00:04:00,390 --> 00:03:58,720 those forecasts to show that that for a 115 00:04:02,309 --> 00:04:00,400 towel landing an hour later we wouldn't 116 00:04:03,830 --> 00:04:02,319 have a problem and so those forecasts 117 00:04:05,589 --> 00:04:03,840 amended to be go and we ended up i think 118 00:04:07,670 --> 00:04:05,599 having two of our three tow sites 119 00:04:09,030 --> 00:04:07,680 supporting today with a go forecast so 120 00:04:10,470 --> 00:04:09,040 we again we didn't have to talk a lot 121 00:04:12,070 --> 00:04:10,480 about the tel weather but it was at 122 00:04:13,110 --> 00:04:12,080 least a tiny little bit of weather 123 00:04:14,789 --> 00:04:13,120 discussion 124 00:04:18,390 --> 00:04:14,799 technically the vehicle was in was in 125 00:04:20,150 --> 00:04:18,400 perfect shape um i think we had maybe a 126 00:04:22,469 --> 00:04:20,160 grand total going all the way back to 127 00:04:24,070 --> 00:04:22,479 sue seven start maybe five things total 128 00:04:25,030 --> 00:04:24,080 in the problem count hardly anything at 129 00:04:27,270 --> 00:04:25,040 all 130 00:04:29,189 --> 00:04:27,280 we had a little bit of a discussion 131 00:04:30,629 --> 00:04:29,199 after the uh the final inspection team 132 00:04:32,629 --> 00:04:30,639 that's out there after we load up the 133 00:04:34,710 --> 00:04:32,639 external tank we send a team out to go 134 00:04:36,870 --> 00:04:34,720 inspect the external tank look for uh 135 00:04:38,469 --> 00:04:36,880 off nominal conditions frost ice 136 00:04:40,310 --> 00:04:38,479 anything that's that's funny 137 00:04:42,469 --> 00:04:40,320 and they did find a stress relief crack 138 00:04:43,670 --> 00:04:42,479 on one of the umbilical struts there's a 139 00:04:44,950 --> 00:04:43,680 there's a horizontal strut and a 140 00:04:45,909 --> 00:04:44,960 vertical right that's right other 141 00:04:47,670 --> 00:04:45,919 diagonal 142 00:04:48,870 --> 00:04:47,680 um and on this time we saw a crack a 143 00:04:50,790 --> 00:04:48,880 stretch release crack on one of those 144 00:04:52,070 --> 00:04:50,800 struts and and that's that's kind of an 145 00:04:54,150 --> 00:04:52,080 expected condition those struts are 146 00:04:56,070 --> 00:04:54,160 meant to pivot and rotate and the foam 147 00:04:58,150 --> 00:04:56,080 that's sprayed on the outside of them 148 00:05:00,310 --> 00:04:58,160 has a has a strain relief basically that 149 00:05:01,830 --> 00:05:00,320 when that that strut underneath pivots 150 00:05:03,350 --> 00:05:01,840 the foam kind of can't quite handle it 151 00:05:04,469 --> 00:05:03,360 and it is a little stress fracture and 152 00:05:06,150 --> 00:05:04,479 so it just cracked it i think it was 153 00:05:07,909 --> 00:05:06,160 about a seven inch long crack we've seen 154 00:05:09,350 --> 00:05:07,919 that before in different locations 155 00:05:11,029 --> 00:05:09,360 hadn't seen it in this location but so 156 00:05:12,870 --> 00:05:11,039 the teams had a little bit to talk about 157 00:05:14,629 --> 00:05:12,880 but it was no issue there was no worry 158 00:05:16,870 --> 00:05:14,639 of liberation or any kind of ice 159 00:05:18,310 --> 00:05:16,880 formation there so it was a pretty easy 160 00:05:20,870 --> 00:05:18,320 clear from the team to document that 161 00:05:22,230 --> 00:05:20,880 scenario and move on um and then at the 162 00:05:24,150 --> 00:05:22,240 at the end we had a 163 00:05:25,350 --> 00:05:24,160 little discussion about a pip pin which 164 00:05:27,350 --> 00:05:25,360 is a 165 00:05:29,590 --> 00:05:27,360 basically a big fancy 166 00:05:31,749 --> 00:05:29,600 retainer pin um if you think of it it's 167 00:05:33,029 --> 00:05:31,759 a it's a little piston with a thumb to 168 00:05:35,350 --> 00:05:33,039 pressure you push the little button and 169 00:05:36,710 --> 00:05:35,360 two little ball bearings roll back in 170 00:05:38,230 --> 00:05:36,720 you can stick that in and you let go of 171 00:05:40,310 --> 00:05:38,240 the thumb and the ball bearings move 172 00:05:41,590 --> 00:05:40,320 into a socket and hold that pin in place 173 00:05:43,270 --> 00:05:41,600 we use them to hold our payload bait 174 00:05:45,670 --> 00:05:43,280 cameras in place to be honest we use 175 00:05:47,350 --> 00:05:45,680 them in thousands of locations around 176 00:05:49,029 --> 00:05:47,360 both the the payload bay the vehicle the 177 00:05:50,550 --> 00:05:49,039 ground servicing equipment it's a quick 178 00:05:52,390 --> 00:05:50,560 release weight up to pin hardware in 179 00:05:55,029 --> 00:05:52,400 without having to put a wrench in a nut 180 00:05:56,469 --> 00:05:55,039 and turn turn bolts um when we were 181 00:05:58,390 --> 00:05:56,479 closing out the payload bay's last play 182 00:06:00,870 --> 00:05:58,400 bay last week we found a little ball 183 00:06:01,990 --> 00:06:00,880 bearing uh in the palo bay and the teams 184 00:06:04,150 --> 00:06:02,000 went through their normal lost and found 185 00:06:06,070 --> 00:06:04,160 process and could not find uh where that 186 00:06:07,590 --> 00:06:06,080 part came from and we dispositioned it 187 00:06:09,270 --> 00:06:07,600 as probably having come from ground 188 00:06:10,790 --> 00:06:09,280 equipment um 189 00:06:12,550 --> 00:06:10,800 the the teams did the right thing they 190 00:06:13,670 --> 00:06:12,560 stayed hungry and sharp all week long 191 00:06:14,710 --> 00:06:13,680 they didn't just let to go with that and 192 00:06:16,870 --> 00:06:14,720 they went back and dug into their 193 00:06:18,790 --> 00:06:16,880 drawings and and discovered that the 194 00:06:20,790 --> 00:06:18,800 pins we used to hold the payload bay 195 00:06:22,629 --> 00:06:20,800 cameras in place actually have similar 196 00:06:24,550 --> 00:06:22,639 ball bearings to the one we found and so 197 00:06:25,909 --> 00:06:24,560 we just wanted to be sure that uh that 198 00:06:27,830 --> 00:06:25,919 this wasn't a problem and the teams were 199 00:06:29,670 --> 00:06:27,840 doing really good at clearing it we got 200 00:06:31,110 --> 00:06:29,680 right up on top of the launch countdown 201 00:06:32,469 --> 00:06:31,120 and they hadn't quite been able to dot 202 00:06:33,909 --> 00:06:32,479 all the eyes and cross all the t so they 203 00:06:35,029 --> 00:06:33,919 brought it up to the team's attention 204 00:06:36,950 --> 00:06:35,039 which was definitely the right thing to 205 00:06:39,189 --> 00:06:36,960 do we talked about it uh pretty quick 206 00:06:40,469 --> 00:06:39,199 and and realized that uh the uh the 207 00:06:42,309 --> 00:06:40,479 chances that this came from that 208 00:06:44,070 --> 00:06:42,319 location were pretty small and the teams 209 00:06:45,909 --> 00:06:44,080 did some analysis show that even if one 210 00:06:47,430 --> 00:06:45,919 of the balls came out of this little pit 211 00:06:49,189 --> 00:06:47,440 pin the the other ball would hold the 212 00:06:51,110 --> 00:06:49,199 thing in place and there was not a 213 00:06:52,950 --> 00:06:51,120 problem so that was really a non-issue 214 00:06:54,469 --> 00:06:52,960 but we had to talk late about it which 215 00:06:56,230 --> 00:06:54,479 made it seem a little bit more exciting 216 00:06:57,749 --> 00:06:56,240 than it probably really was 217 00:06:59,670 --> 00:06:57,759 and and again it's a good example of the 218 00:07:01,990 --> 00:06:59,680 teams recognizing that they haven't 219 00:07:03,589 --> 00:07:02,000 quite closed all their paper and being 220 00:07:04,790 --> 00:07:03,599 willing to bring that up to us and let 221 00:07:06,790 --> 00:07:04,800 us talk about it and make sure we're all 222 00:07:08,309 --> 00:07:06,800 comfortable with the the rationale we 223 00:07:10,150 --> 00:07:08,319 have to fly and that that worked out 224 00:07:12,230 --> 00:07:10,160 really good today too the way uphill 225 00:07:14,070 --> 00:07:12,240 there were no problems whatsoever uh the 226 00:07:15,990 --> 00:07:14,080 vehicle got on orbit almost two was good 227 00:07:17,189 --> 00:07:16,000 and uh and the crews up there right now 228 00:07:19,749 --> 00:07:17,199 walking through their post insertion 229 00:07:21,029 --> 00:07:19,759 checklist configuring over from the uh 230 00:07:22,710 --> 00:07:21,039 from the ascent rocket over to the 231 00:07:24,230 --> 00:07:22,720 spaceship to go start docking with the 232 00:07:26,550 --> 00:07:24,240 space station so the mission gets 233 00:07:28,070 --> 00:07:26,560 underway now uh tomorrow will be the the 234 00:07:29,430 --> 00:07:28,080 inspections of the heat shield the 235 00:07:31,510 --> 00:07:29,440 thermal protection system to make sure 236 00:07:34,230 --> 00:07:31,520 we didn't do any damage uh on the way 237 00:07:35,909 --> 00:07:34,240 uphill uh during launch assuming that's 238 00:07:37,430 --> 00:07:35,919 all cleared on flight day three we'll 239 00:07:39,830 --> 00:07:37,440 dock with the space station and 240 00:07:41,510 --> 00:07:39,840 immediately begin the tasks of uh of 241 00:07:43,029 --> 00:07:41,520 getting uh all the the payload bay 242 00:07:44,390 --> 00:07:43,039 hardware transferred over to the station 243 00:07:46,469 --> 00:07:44,400 3 evas 244 00:07:48,790 --> 00:07:46,479 the mrm module going over and then the 245 00:07:50,230 --> 00:07:48,800 icc which is a cargo carrier that's 246 00:07:52,950 --> 00:07:50,240 carrying up batteries 247 00:07:55,430 --> 00:07:52,960 ku band antenna and a transfer platform 248 00:07:57,670 --> 00:07:55,440 for the dexter robot up on station is 249 00:07:59,510 --> 00:07:57,680 pretty much a full plate for the crew uh 250 00:08:02,869 --> 00:07:59,520 and then i think we're coming home 251 00:08:04,710 --> 00:08:02,879 on the 26th is our as our landing day so 252 00:08:06,309 --> 00:08:04,720 congratulations to the kennedy teams to 253 00:08:07,749 --> 00:08:06,319 angie brewer and her flow team to get 254 00:08:09,350 --> 00:08:07,759 the vehicle ready and to mike leinbach 255 00:08:11,830 --> 00:08:09,360 and his launch team for getting us in 256 00:08:13,670 --> 00:08:11,840 orbit a fantastic fantastic mission good 257 00:08:15,510 --> 00:08:13,680 thanks mike first of all i would like to 258 00:08:17,350 --> 00:08:15,520 congratulate team atlantis they did an 259 00:08:19,830 --> 00:08:17,360 outstanding job of preparing the vehicle 260 00:08:21,909 --> 00:08:19,840 for today and you saw how well a vehicle 261 00:08:23,110 --> 00:08:21,919 can perform when the work on it is done 262 00:08:24,550 --> 00:08:23,120 properly 263 00:08:25,670 --> 00:08:24,560 the two issues that mike talked about 264 00:08:27,670 --> 00:08:25,680 really were the only two things we 265 00:08:29,670 --> 00:08:27,680 talked about today the crack on the e.t 266 00:08:31,029 --> 00:08:29,680 foam and then the pit pin other than 267 00:08:33,589 --> 00:08:31,039 that i would characterize it as an 268 00:08:35,110 --> 00:08:33,599 extremely clean launch countdown uh it's 269 00:08:36,310 --> 00:08:35,120 really a testament to the to the folks 270 00:08:38,310 --> 00:08:36,320 who prepare the vehicle and the ground 271 00:08:39,909 --> 00:08:38,320 support equipment to get us to this 272 00:08:41,670 --> 00:08:39,919 point 273 00:08:43,029 --> 00:08:41,680 i'd like to take you back a year or 15 274 00:08:44,470 --> 00:08:43,039 months maybe 18 months and we were 275 00:08:45,829 --> 00:08:44,480 talking a lot about the manifest and 276 00:08:47,590 --> 00:08:45,839 could we pull off all these launches we 277 00:08:49,670 --> 00:08:47,600 had in front of us you just saw that we 278 00:08:51,670 --> 00:08:49,680 did and so we're very very proud of all 279 00:08:53,350 --> 00:08:51,680 three orbiter teams and all the flight 280 00:08:55,190 --> 00:08:53,360 teams in houston and marshall space 281 00:08:56,630 --> 00:08:55,200 flight center and stennis space center 282 00:08:58,310 --> 00:08:56,640 and all the work that's done by everyone 283 00:09:00,070 --> 00:08:58,320 around the country to in support of the 284 00:09:02,070 --> 00:09:00,080 space shuttle program and the iss 285 00:09:04,150 --> 00:09:02,080 program we proved we could do it and 286 00:09:05,430 --> 00:09:04,160 very very proud of everybody the other 287 00:09:06,949 --> 00:09:05,440 good thing about a launch is we don't 288 00:09:09,350 --> 00:09:06,959 have to talk about launch scrub 289 00:09:11,509 --> 00:09:09,360 turnaround options anymore so don't ask 290 00:09:14,150 --> 00:09:11,519 anymore about those 291 00:09:16,790 --> 00:09:14,160 but really it's great great launch today 292 00:09:20,150 --> 00:09:16,800 very very proud of the team and 293 00:09:21,750 --> 00:09:20,160 start of a good mission thanks 294 00:09:23,509 --> 00:09:21,760 all right gentlemen thank you uh we'll 295 00:09:24,310 --> 00:09:23,519 begin with questions here at kennedy and 296 00:09:25,990 --> 00:09:24,320 uh 297 00:09:27,750 --> 00:09:26,000 we have a pretty full house so i'd like 298 00:09:30,230 --> 00:09:27,760 to ask you to limit it to one question 299 00:09:31,910 --> 00:09:30,240 and one follow-up please and state your 300 00:09:33,190 --> 00:09:31,920 name affiliation 301 00:09:35,030 --> 00:09:33,200 uh and to whom your question is 302 00:09:36,630 --> 00:09:35,040 addressed why don't we uh start over 303 00:09:40,630 --> 00:09:36,640 here with jay barbary 304 00:09:42,150 --> 00:09:40,640 uh jay barbary with nbc uh mike 305 00:09:44,710 --> 00:09:42,160 the other day before the commerce 306 00:09:47,750 --> 00:09:44,720 committee your administrator said that 307 00:09:49,590 --> 00:09:47,760 he had not ruled out flying atlantis 308 00:09:51,670 --> 00:09:49,600 again for another mission 309 00:09:54,310 --> 00:09:51,680 he was still considering it the problem 310 00:09:57,030 --> 00:09:54,320 with safety between liftoff and getting 311 00:09:58,630 --> 00:09:57,040 into orbit you'd have no vehicle to go 312 00:10:00,389 --> 00:09:58,640 get them before they get to the space 313 00:10:02,790 --> 00:10:00,399 station 314 00:10:04,550 --> 00:10:02,800 what would it take for you guys to get 315 00:10:07,110 --> 00:10:04,560 atlantis ready to go 316 00:10:10,310 --> 00:10:07,120 to follow endeavor into space you'll 317 00:10:12,150 --> 00:10:10,320 have it ready for of course the rescue 318 00:10:13,750 --> 00:10:12,160 but what would you have to do to have it 319 00:10:15,350 --> 00:10:13,760 ready what more would you have to do to 320 00:10:16,470 --> 00:10:15,360 have it ready to go and would you be 321 00:10:21,829 --> 00:10:16,480 confident 322 00:10:24,630 --> 00:10:21,839 after today in sending up a crew on 323 00:10:27,350 --> 00:10:24,640 atlantis again without a backup 324 00:10:28,710 --> 00:10:27,360 shuttle to pick it up 325 00:10:29,829 --> 00:10:28,720 let's see yeah see you want to talk 326 00:10:31,670 --> 00:10:29,839 about the processing part well i'll see 327 00:10:32,630 --> 00:10:31,680 a lot of questions there and 328 00:10:35,509 --> 00:10:32,640 yeah 329 00:10:37,269 --> 00:10:35,519 that's typical from mr barbour 330 00:10:38,949 --> 00:10:37,279 but from the processing perspective you 331 00:10:40,710 --> 00:10:38,959 know we're going to process atlantis 332 00:10:41,910 --> 00:10:40,720 like we always do because it does have 333 00:10:43,350 --> 00:10:41,920 to be ready for the launch on need 334 00:10:45,430 --> 00:10:43,360 mission so it has to be ready to go with 335 00:10:47,350 --> 00:10:45,440 the crew of four and then if it if it 336 00:10:49,990 --> 00:10:47,360 happens to turn into a to a mission to 337 00:10:52,069 --> 00:10:50,000 the space station by itself so be it we 338 00:10:53,910 --> 00:10:52,079 would we would do what's necessary there 339 00:10:55,910 --> 00:10:53,920 uh we're not going to shortcut anything 340 00:10:57,910 --> 00:10:55,920 uh we're not going to we're not planning 341 00:10:59,509 --> 00:10:57,920 on adding anything to the turnaround 342 00:11:01,990 --> 00:10:59,519 we're going to process it for the long 343 00:11:04,550 --> 00:11:02,000 and if things change we'll we will react 344 00:11:06,389 --> 00:11:04,560 to that it's it's a it's it's no big 345 00:11:08,389 --> 00:11:06,399 deal to us right now early in the 346 00:11:09,990 --> 00:11:08,399 processing after she gets home whether 347 00:11:11,110 --> 00:11:10,000 it's whether it's an lon mission or 348 00:11:12,470 --> 00:11:11,120 whether it's a mission of the space 349 00:11:14,949 --> 00:11:12,480 station 350 00:11:17,190 --> 00:11:14,959 so in other words it'll be ready to go 351 00:11:19,269 --> 00:11:17,200 after you fly endeavor pretty much 352 00:11:21,190 --> 00:11:19,279 standing there as the rescue vehicle 353 00:11:23,750 --> 00:11:21,200 yeah the way the timeline would work is 354 00:11:26,550 --> 00:11:23,760 um like you see on all of our safe haven 355 00:11:27,910 --> 00:11:26,560 uh rescue missions uh the time the exact 356 00:11:30,310 --> 00:11:27,920 time depends on the station consumables 357 00:11:32,630 --> 00:11:30,320 but it'd be somewhere in the 90 to 120 358 00:11:34,230 --> 00:11:32,640 day range that we'd have protection to 359 00:11:35,430 --> 00:11:34,240 be able to keep the crew up on station 360 00:11:37,269 --> 00:11:35,440 for the last flight we actually probably 361 00:11:38,470 --> 00:11:37,279 can go even longer than that so atlantis 362 00:11:40,310 --> 00:11:38,480 would be processed to the point where 363 00:11:41,590 --> 00:11:40,320 it's at least that close to launch so 364 00:11:43,350 --> 00:11:41,600 that you know you can can launch and 365 00:11:45,110 --> 00:11:43,360 then successfully rescue and if we were 366 00:11:46,870 --> 00:11:45,120 going to make it a real mission we would 367 00:11:48,230 --> 00:11:46,880 probably want to know in june so we 368 00:11:49,910 --> 00:11:48,240 could actually start doing the right 369 00:11:51,910 --> 00:11:49,920 planning get things in place make sure 370 00:11:53,590 --> 00:11:51,920 we got the right cargo in place we've 371 00:11:55,509 --> 00:11:53,600 got a good set of cargo we got a good 372 00:11:57,030 --> 00:11:55,519 understanding of where we want to go but 373 00:11:58,629 --> 00:11:57,040 if we want to make it a real mission we 374 00:12:00,069 --> 00:11:58,639 need to get focused on the real mission 375 00:12:01,750 --> 00:12:00,079 we need to think about what unique 376 00:12:03,750 --> 00:12:01,760 aspects need to be there and be prepared 377 00:12:05,829 --> 00:12:03,760 so the june time frame is about the time 378 00:12:07,350 --> 00:12:05,839 that we kind of need to get an idea that 379 00:12:08,870 --> 00:12:07,360 that's somebody would like us to go do 380 00:12:10,470 --> 00:12:08,880 that and if they provide the funding 381 00:12:12,470 --> 00:12:10,480 we'd be glad to go do that so you're 382 00:12:13,990 --> 00:12:12,480 working that now and uh you're working 383 00:12:15,750 --> 00:12:14,000 that now in headquarters you're working 384 00:12:17,750 --> 00:12:15,760 the mission now and you're trying to 385 00:12:19,110 --> 00:12:17,760 we're really doing exactly what these 386 00:12:21,350 --> 00:12:19,120 guys said we're preparing it for a 387 00:12:22,870 --> 00:12:21,360 contingency flight but we're prepared 388 00:12:24,710 --> 00:12:22,880 that if somebody asks us to make it a 389 00:12:26,230 --> 00:12:24,720 real flight we can start that activity 390 00:12:30,629 --> 00:12:26,240 if they let us know by sometime in the 391 00:12:35,030 --> 00:12:32,710 uh gentlemen greg dobbs from hdnet 392 00:12:37,269 --> 00:12:35,040 television uh and don't forget it's mr 393 00:12:38,870 --> 00:12:37,279 grasnoff who brought this up not jay so 394 00:12:41,190 --> 00:12:38,880 a second question about the latest 395 00:12:42,550 --> 00:12:41,200 thinking on an additional flight what 396 00:12:43,910 --> 00:12:42,560 would be the nature what's the latest 397 00:12:46,550 --> 00:12:43,920 thinking at least about the nature of 398 00:12:48,550 --> 00:12:46,560 the cargo and the size of a crew on a 399 00:12:50,230 --> 00:12:48,560 fourth flight it would be a four person 400 00:12:51,350 --> 00:12:50,240 crew would have the mplm and be 401 00:12:52,870 --> 00:12:51,360 configured pretty much in the 402 00:12:54,790 --> 00:12:52,880 configuration we have for the launch on 403 00:12:56,949 --> 00:12:54,800 needfly 404 00:12:58,870 --> 00:12:56,959 what would it carry an mplm 405 00:13:00,710 --> 00:12:58,880 multi-purpose logistic module would 406 00:13:02,150 --> 00:13:00,720 carry sperry spare components for the 407 00:13:04,069 --> 00:13:02,160 space station we've already laid that 408 00:13:06,069 --> 00:13:04,079 manifest out for the contingency flight 409 00:13:07,910 --> 00:13:06,079 what consumables we need what spares 410 00:13:09,509 --> 00:13:07,920 what our us we would want also 411 00:13:11,350 --> 00:13:09,519 importantly you could bring back some 412 00:13:13,590 --> 00:13:11,360 items for us which we would like at the 413 00:13:16,310 --> 00:13:13,600 last moment to bring back we'd like to 414 00:13:18,550 --> 00:13:16,320 fly it in the june kind of time frame 415 00:13:20,550 --> 00:13:18,560 next year if possible the reason we want 416 00:13:22,470 --> 00:13:20,560 to do that we have an htv and an atv 417 00:13:24,949 --> 00:13:22,480 flight that are going to fly in december 418 00:13:26,550 --> 00:13:24,959 and january we have a lot of supplies on 419 00:13:28,710 --> 00:13:26,560 those flights we want to then put it in 420 00:13:30,870 --> 00:13:28,720 the right place to benefit station so so 421 00:13:33,190 --> 00:13:30,880 our motivation technically would be it 422 00:13:35,269 --> 00:13:33,200 gives us the best way to leave station 423 00:13:37,190 --> 00:13:35,279 in the best configuration we can as we 424 00:13:39,110 --> 00:13:37,200 move forward station would be fine 425 00:13:40,870 --> 00:13:39,120 without the flight but if we want to try 426 00:13:43,030 --> 00:13:40,880 to improve it and make things better 427 00:13:44,550 --> 00:13:43,040 then if somebody wants us to go do it we 428 00:13:45,670 --> 00:13:44,560 could go potentially accommodate the 429 00:13:47,189 --> 00:13:45,680 flight 430 00:13:48,870 --> 00:13:47,199 bobby bobby block with the orlando 431 00:13:50,949 --> 00:13:48,880 sentinel i wanted to ask you guys if you 432 00:13:52,870 --> 00:13:50,959 could talk about the motions that you 433 00:13:55,509 --> 00:13:52,880 had seeing seeing the launch knowing 434 00:13:56,870 --> 00:13:55,519 that this could be atlantis final launch 435 00:13:58,710 --> 00:13:56,880 but before i get to that i just wanted 436 00:14:01,110 --> 00:13:58,720 to follow on something with bill how 437 00:14:03,350 --> 00:14:01,120 much money you said you need money 438 00:14:04,629 --> 00:14:03,360 to do the launch do you have any idea of 439 00:14:07,110 --> 00:14:04,639 what because you have some additional 440 00:14:08,550 --> 00:14:07,120 funding i think to the end of the year 441 00:14:10,949 --> 00:14:08,560 do you have an idea of what you would 442 00:14:13,189 --> 00:14:10,959 need to be able to launch next atlantis 443 00:14:15,269 --> 00:14:13,199 next june if you were asked to we've 444 00:14:16,470 --> 00:14:15,279 we've done some estimates and and we 445 00:14:18,069 --> 00:14:16,480 we're covered through the end of the 446 00:14:20,629 --> 00:14:18,079 calendar year and then beyond that it 447 00:14:21,990 --> 00:14:20,639 depends exactly when the flight sits so 448 00:14:24,069 --> 00:14:22,000 i think i'd rather not give you a 449 00:14:25,590 --> 00:14:24,079 specific number but but you can you know 450 00:14:27,110 --> 00:14:25,600 roughly think we're on the order of 451 00:14:29,590 --> 00:14:27,120 about a hundred million dollars a month 452 00:14:31,509 --> 00:14:29,600 or so for each month we're beyond the 453 00:14:33,110 --> 00:14:31,519 beginning of the calendar year but but 454 00:14:35,829 --> 00:14:33,120 we're still working those those details 455 00:14:38,069 --> 00:14:35,839 so it's it's probably you know again 600 456 00:14:39,750 --> 00:14:38,079 to maybe a billion dollars to fly in the 457 00:14:41,350 --> 00:14:39,760 june kind of time frame and could you 458 00:14:43,430 --> 00:14:41,360 again the emotional you know your 459 00:14:46,949 --> 00:14:43,440 responses on seeing this is as we're 460 00:14:49,110 --> 00:14:46,959 really going into the home stretch now 461 00:14:51,110 --> 00:14:49,120 these guys 462 00:14:52,949 --> 00:14:51,120 well it's you know personally uh it 463 00:14:54,310 --> 00:14:52,959 hasn't hit me yet that this was atlantis 464 00:14:56,069 --> 00:14:54,320 and and uh 465 00:14:57,590 --> 00:14:56,079 and possibly the last flight it just was 466 00:14:59,030 --> 00:14:57,600 another launch and so 467 00:15:00,629 --> 00:14:59,040 i wrapped up in the focus and the 468 00:15:02,230 --> 00:15:00,639 attention on that so probably later 469 00:15:03,350 --> 00:15:02,240 tonight and heading into the week uh 470 00:15:05,590 --> 00:15:03,360 i'll probably start thinking about that 471 00:15:07,750 --> 00:15:05,600 but so for right now not a whole lot 472 00:15:09,430 --> 00:15:07,760 other than just normal post-launch uh 473 00:15:11,030 --> 00:15:09,440 emotion 474 00:15:12,949 --> 00:15:11,040 and i'm pretty focused on the orbit 475 00:15:15,590 --> 00:15:12,959 activities and in the mission in front 476 00:15:17,670 --> 00:15:15,600 of us that this is these evas are pretty 477 00:15:19,829 --> 00:15:17,680 tough especially the first eva is very 478 00:15:22,150 --> 00:15:19,839 demanding uh the installation of the 479 00:15:24,230 --> 00:15:22,160 russian module is is 480 00:15:26,790 --> 00:15:24,240 is unique for us it's using the docking 481 00:15:28,310 --> 00:15:26,800 mechanism and it's using the canadian 482 00:15:31,990 --> 00:15:28,320 arm to actually do a docking that's 483 00:15:33,829 --> 00:15:32,000 typically done by a proton or a 484 00:15:35,910 --> 00:15:33,839 docking kind of activity so that's some 485 00:15:37,269 --> 00:15:35,920 unique activities for us so 486 00:15:39,670 --> 00:15:37,279 at this point 487 00:15:41,509 --> 00:15:39,680 again i don't celebrate too much until 488 00:15:42,870 --> 00:15:41,519 we've really gotten through the mission 489 00:15:44,389 --> 00:15:42,880 and we got wheels stopped and then i can 490 00:15:45,829 --> 00:15:44,399 take a break and think about things so 491 00:15:47,110 --> 00:15:45,839 i'm pretty focused on the orbit 492 00:15:48,629 --> 00:15:47,120 activities in front of us and what we 493 00:15:49,829 --> 00:15:48,639 got to go do 494 00:15:52,470 --> 00:15:49,839 todd 495 00:15:55,590 --> 00:15:52,480 alverson of florida today for alexi 496 00:15:58,870 --> 00:15:55,600 krasnoff dobre dean 497 00:16:01,509 --> 00:15:58,880 i'm wondering if you could tell us 498 00:16:02,949 --> 00:16:01,519 what additional major components or 499 00:16:05,670 --> 00:16:02,959 segments 500 00:16:08,310 --> 00:16:05,680 the russian federal space agency 501 00:16:10,069 --> 00:16:08,320 intends to add on to the international 502 00:16:12,629 --> 00:16:10,079 space station 503 00:16:14,870 --> 00:16:12,639 after the u.s 504 00:16:17,030 --> 00:16:14,880 segment is complete i believe there's 505 00:16:21,030 --> 00:16:17,040 another major laboratory module and i 506 00:16:23,189 --> 00:16:21,040 was wondering if there was anything else 507 00:16:26,230 --> 00:16:23,199 yes indeed uh for 508 00:16:27,990 --> 00:16:26,240 since uh we made determination uh all 509 00:16:30,710 --> 00:16:28,000 together all partner 510 00:16:34,710 --> 00:16:30,720 agencies uh recently during the heads of 511 00:16:37,509 --> 00:16:34,720 agencies meeting in tokyo that we will 512 00:16:40,230 --> 00:16:37,519 continue on with the space station 513 00:16:42,629 --> 00:16:40,240 at least up to 2020 and that is a goal 514 00:16:45,590 --> 00:16:42,639 and we explore exploring all 515 00:16:47,749 --> 00:16:45,600 uh technical issues associated with the 516 00:16:51,430 --> 00:16:47,759 early modules and 517 00:16:53,910 --> 00:16:51,440 among those first of all for fgb and 518 00:16:55,749 --> 00:16:53,920 service module which russian-made 519 00:16:56,550 --> 00:16:55,759 and we are working on the extension of 520 00:16:59,350 --> 00:16:56,560 the 521 00:17:01,269 --> 00:16:59,360 service life on orbit for fgb and 522 00:17:04,069 --> 00:17:01,279 service model 523 00:17:06,870 --> 00:17:04,079 and in this context for we are planning 524 00:17:08,949 --> 00:17:06,880 to continue on with the for 525 00:17:10,630 --> 00:17:08,959 additional capabilities of russian 526 00:17:11,990 --> 00:17:10,640 segment 527 00:17:14,309 --> 00:17:12,000 which uh 528 00:17:16,470 --> 00:17:14,319 will be comprised of 529 00:17:21,350 --> 00:17:16,480 first of all launch of 530 00:17:24,710 --> 00:17:21,360 multi-purpose laboratory module in 2012 531 00:17:26,069 --> 00:17:24,720 the the target date is the end of uh 532 00:17:27,829 --> 00:17:26,079 second quarter 533 00:17:29,190 --> 00:17:27,839 of the year and 534 00:17:31,750 --> 00:17:29,200 then 535 00:17:33,590 --> 00:17:31,760 with appreciation that we do have a lack 536 00:17:35,430 --> 00:17:33,600 of power 537 00:17:36,870 --> 00:17:35,440 due to due to the evolution of the 538 00:17:38,549 --> 00:17:36,880 program 539 00:17:40,070 --> 00:17:38,559 and the changes within the shuttle 540 00:17:43,510 --> 00:17:40,080 program 541 00:17:46,070 --> 00:17:43,520 we scrubbed the the launch of the for 542 00:17:49,669 --> 00:17:46,080 science power module which used to be 543 00:17:52,470 --> 00:17:49,679 used to be in our configuration which 544 00:17:55,430 --> 00:17:52,480 was planned to provide us a sufficient 545 00:17:56,470 --> 00:17:55,440 amount of power for russian elements 546 00:17:59,590 --> 00:17:56,480 and we 547 00:18:04,870 --> 00:17:59,600 arranged with our colleagues at nasa 548 00:18:07,990 --> 00:18:06,870 comparable barter 549 00:18:10,230 --> 00:18:08,000 process 550 00:18:13,590 --> 00:18:10,240 to get some power 551 00:18:15,590 --> 00:18:13,600 until we will we will deliver of this 552 00:18:16,870 --> 00:18:15,600 additional capabilities to russian 553 00:18:18,549 --> 00:18:16,880 segment and 554 00:18:22,470 --> 00:18:18,559 i believe that's the 555 00:18:23,909 --> 00:18:22,480 in time frame of 2013 2014 556 00:18:26,390 --> 00:18:23,919 we will 557 00:18:29,270 --> 00:18:26,400 plan to deliver 558 00:18:31,590 --> 00:18:29,280 such a power and research capabilities 559 00:18:32,549 --> 00:18:31,600 to the russian segment 560 00:18:34,870 --> 00:18:32,559 which 561 00:18:38,549 --> 00:18:34,880 certainly will enhance the capability of 562 00:18:40,070 --> 00:18:38,559 the science and utilization thank you 563 00:18:43,830 --> 00:18:40,080 james 564 00:18:45,270 --> 00:18:43,840 gersomer um 565 00:18:47,029 --> 00:18:45,280 you're saying atlantis would be ready to 566 00:18:48,710 --> 00:18:47,039 go if you're asked to fly that 567 00:18:51,510 --> 00:18:48,720 additional flight i just wanted to 568 00:18:52,870 --> 00:18:51,520 understand where is that direction 569 00:18:55,029 --> 00:18:52,880 ultimately coming from within the next 570 00:18:56,950 --> 00:18:55,039 month is it an administrator call or 571 00:19:01,270 --> 00:18:56,960 congress or the president 572 00:19:05,590 --> 00:19:03,270 good and 573 00:19:07,909 --> 00:19:05,600 i know uh mr suffordini said he would 574 00:19:10,470 --> 00:19:07,919 like that flight in june are you only 575 00:19:12,870 --> 00:19:10,480 looking at june as kind of a 576 00:19:15,270 --> 00:19:12,880 the time you would fly and and that 577 00:19:18,150 --> 00:19:15,280 would be the last flight or 578 00:19:19,990 --> 00:19:18,160 and also if if it was as late as june 579 00:19:21,990 --> 00:19:20,000 would it definitely be atlantis that 580 00:19:23,350 --> 00:19:22,000 would fly it because it's process pretty 581 00:19:25,750 --> 00:19:23,360 much ready to go or could you possibly 582 00:19:28,070 --> 00:19:25,760 switch to a different vehicle 583 00:19:29,830 --> 00:19:28,080 again if we got requested we'd go 584 00:19:32,470 --> 00:19:29,840 optimize it i think it would probably be 585 00:19:34,310 --> 00:19:32,480 atlantis june is a technical right time 586 00:19:36,390 --> 00:19:34,320 from a station needs standpoint that is 587 00:19:38,789 --> 00:19:36,400 the most optimum time to get the right 588 00:19:40,710 --> 00:19:38,799 cargo to station to help us all from a 589 00:19:42,789 --> 00:19:40,720 partnership standpoint 590 00:19:44,630 --> 00:19:42,799 if somebody told me some other month we 591 00:19:46,310 --> 00:19:44,640 would go evaluate it we'd take a look at 592 00:19:48,950 --> 00:19:46,320 it and we'd see what benefits we are and 593 00:19:51,029 --> 00:19:48,960 then we would trade again the cost you 594 00:19:53,029 --> 00:19:51,039 know schedule time money those kind of 595 00:19:55,110 --> 00:19:53,039 things versus the gain we get on station 596 00:19:56,870 --> 00:19:55,120 and we work with all the folks we talked 597 00:19:58,310 --> 00:19:56,880 about before to make the right decision 598 00:20:00,230 --> 00:19:58,320 that we want to do to get the best out 599 00:20:01,510 --> 00:20:00,240 of station so as alexis said the 600 00:20:03,110 --> 00:20:01,520 important thing is we're really looking 601 00:20:04,710 --> 00:20:03,120 at how we can utilize station you know 602 00:20:07,510 --> 00:20:04,720 we're going to keep station active until 603 00:20:09,110 --> 00:20:07,520 2020 we want to make sure we take 604 00:20:10,950 --> 00:20:09,120 optimum advantage and get the most 605 00:20:12,789 --> 00:20:10,960 research we can and we're going to look 606 00:20:15,110 --> 00:20:12,799 at everything we do and how well it can 607 00:20:16,470 --> 00:20:15,120 justify in improving research or 608 00:20:18,470 --> 00:20:16,480 improving the science return from 609 00:20:19,909 --> 00:20:18,480 station and helping our partners so so 610 00:20:21,350 --> 00:20:19,919 we trade and factor all those things 611 00:20:23,029 --> 00:20:21,360 depending on what somebody would like us 612 00:20:24,830 --> 00:20:23,039 to go do 613 00:20:26,710 --> 00:20:24,840 chris um chris gabriel with 614 00:20:27,830 --> 00:20:26,720 nasaspaceflight.com um 615 00:20:29,669 --> 00:20:27,840 you know 616 00:20:32,310 --> 00:20:29,679 sitting here today watching watching the 617 00:20:34,470 --> 00:20:32,320 marvel that that was um 618 00:20:36,149 --> 00:20:34,480 i i keep going back to to the workforce 619 00:20:38,070 --> 00:20:36,159 and the dedication and everything that 620 00:20:39,990 --> 00:20:38,080 they do here and and the extremely clean 621 00:20:41,750 --> 00:20:40,000 nature of these vehicles and 622 00:20:44,470 --> 00:20:41,760 if i'm doing my math correctly i believe 623 00:20:46,070 --> 00:20:44,480 we have a new low ipr number 624 00:20:48,630 --> 00:20:46,080 for processing flow so just wondering 625 00:20:50,789 --> 00:20:48,640 what was atlantis total processing our 626 00:20:53,190 --> 00:20:50,799 interim problem report count 627 00:20:55,990 --> 00:20:53,200 from 129 to 132 and i've got to follow 628 00:20:58,310 --> 00:20:56,000 up yeah we had 46 629 00:20:59,590 --> 00:20:58,320 and angie brewer has a good healthy 630 00:21:01,590 --> 00:20:59,600 competition with her other flow 631 00:21:03,990 --> 00:21:01,600 directors and so she was lobbying late 632 00:21:06,789 --> 00:21:04,000 in account not to get any more ipr's 633 00:21:08,149 --> 00:21:06,799 um but uh no it was a it was another 634 00:21:09,830 --> 00:21:08,159 another good day for us another good 635 00:21:12,310 --> 00:21:09,840 flow 636 00:21:14,630 --> 00:21:12,320 i think so yeah um and uh the the 637 00:21:16,789 --> 00:21:14,640 follow-up to that is um 638 00:21:18,149 --> 00:21:16,799 there was one that i saw um 639 00:21:19,909 --> 00:21:18,159 that would that was a problem with some 640 00:21:22,710 --> 00:21:19,919 equipment out at edwards that got 641 00:21:24,070 --> 00:21:22,720 charged as an ipr to the 132 vehicle i 642 00:21:26,230 --> 00:21:24,080 the only question i've got there is how 643 00:21:29,430 --> 00:21:26,240 can something at edwards be 644 00:21:31,590 --> 00:21:29,440 an ipr for for the 132 vehicle here at 645 00:21:33,510 --> 00:21:31,600 kennedy well you're referring to an 646 00:21:35,270 --> 00:21:33,520 automatic transfer switch on the misplus 647 00:21:37,029 --> 00:21:35,280 system out there the microwave scanning 648 00:21:39,190 --> 00:21:37,039 beam landing system 649 00:21:41,270 --> 00:21:39,200 and uh that switch was not working and 650 00:21:42,710 --> 00:21:41,280 we understood why um the guys out of 651 00:21:45,110 --> 00:21:42,720 driving were going to go fix it today on 652 00:21:46,630 --> 00:21:45,120 first shift their time 653 00:21:48,950 --> 00:21:46,640 that was not fixed by the time we went 654 00:21:50,630 --> 00:21:48,960 into external tank loading and so to 655 00:21:52,230 --> 00:21:50,640 track it from a from a vehicle 656 00:21:53,590 --> 00:21:52,240 configuration not not from a vehicle 657 00:21:55,990 --> 00:21:53,600 configuration but from a flow 658 00:21:57,190 --> 00:21:56,000 perspective we gave we gave an ipr to 659 00:21:58,950 --> 00:21:57,200 the integration console just so they 660 00:22:00,470 --> 00:21:58,960 could tie all the loose ends together 661 00:22:02,390 --> 00:22:00,480 make sure they coordinate with the with 662 00:22:05,190 --> 00:22:02,400 the folks out of dryden and got that 663 00:22:06,470 --> 00:22:05,200 work done and they did and uh so it that 664 00:22:08,149 --> 00:22:06,480 was one that could have gone either way 665 00:22:11,190 --> 00:22:08,159 frankly uh we decided to air on the 666 00:22:12,470 --> 00:22:11,200 conservative side and give it an 667 00:22:13,990 --> 00:22:12,480 okay we'll come ipr to the other side of 668 00:22:15,510 --> 00:22:14,000 the room here as you can see just go 669 00:22:16,710 --> 00:22:15,520 ahead the ipr is an initial problem 670 00:22:18,630 --> 00:22:16,720 report so when a problem comes in they 671 00:22:19,909 --> 00:22:18,640 take an ipr and then if it turns out 672 00:22:21,190 --> 00:22:19,919 it's on ground equipment that has 673 00:22:23,270 --> 00:22:21,200 nothing to do with the vehicle it gets 674 00:22:24,710 --> 00:22:23,280 dispositioned away that way so ipr just 675 00:22:27,110 --> 00:22:24,720 is that initial hey we got something we 676 00:22:29,350 --> 00:22:27,120 want to track make sure we're working 677 00:22:31,990 --> 00:22:29,360 okay mike um mike schneider associated 678 00:22:33,669 --> 00:22:32,000 press um just to uh continue on the 679 00:22:35,909 --> 00:22:33,679 question of the mood in the firing room 680 00:22:37,990 --> 00:22:35,919 did you all do anything special to 681 00:22:41,190 --> 00:22:38,000 commemorate the fact that this was 682 00:22:43,190 --> 00:22:41,200 atlantis last launch um 683 00:22:45,590 --> 00:22:43,200 yeah a little bit we have a new a new uh 684 00:22:47,750 --> 00:22:45,600 display on the wall the firing room for 685 00:22:49,350 --> 00:22:47,760 atlantis we hung that last week very 686 00:22:51,110 --> 00:22:49,360 very beautiful mural 687 00:22:52,789 --> 00:22:51,120 of some of the the highlights of 688 00:22:54,470 --> 00:22:52,799 atlantis's career 689 00:22:55,990 --> 00:22:54,480 along with every mission patch and 690 00:22:57,430 --> 00:22:56,000 that's hanging up there now we're going 691 00:22:59,110 --> 00:22:57,440 to hang the other 692 00:23:01,110 --> 00:22:59,120 tributes to the other four orbiters this 693 00:23:02,630 --> 00:23:01,120 summer so i'd like to take you to the 694 00:23:04,630 --> 00:23:02,640 fire room and show you around it's very 695 00:23:06,149 --> 00:23:04,640 nice and atlantis was the first one to 696 00:23:08,630 --> 00:23:06,159 get that 697 00:23:10,870 --> 00:23:08,640 if i could ask mr gerstenmaier um the 698 00:23:12,390 --> 00:23:10,880 extra flight aside can you talk about 699 00:23:13,750 --> 00:23:12,400 how the launch schedule looks like for 700 00:23:16,070 --> 00:23:13,760 the rest of the year whether you have a 701 00:23:18,310 --> 00:23:16,080 date in november and just talk about the 702 00:23:21,029 --> 00:23:18,320 manifest for 703 00:23:23,510 --> 00:23:21,039 2010 yeah we're looking probably now 704 00:23:24,390 --> 00:23:23,520 still at september 16th for the next 705 00:23:29,029 --> 00:23:24,400 launch 706 00:23:30,630 --> 00:23:29,039 flight is november 27th is kind of the 707 00:23:32,630 --> 00:23:30,640 time frame we're looking at we still 708 00:23:34,390 --> 00:23:32,640 have some challenges on the payload side 709 00:23:35,830 --> 00:23:34,400 there's some large orbital replacement 710 00:23:37,350 --> 00:23:35,840 units that we would really like to fly 711 00:23:38,950 --> 00:23:37,360 into september flight 712 00:23:41,590 --> 00:23:38,960 we'll evaluate and see if they're going 713 00:23:43,430 --> 00:23:41,600 to be ready to make the mplm flight in 714 00:23:44,950 --> 00:23:43,440 september and that could push that data 715 00:23:46,710 --> 00:23:44,960 a little bit but there'll be a change 716 00:23:49,029 --> 00:23:46,720 request going out to the shuttle program 717 00:23:50,549 --> 00:23:49,039 here fairly soon probably this week or 718 00:23:52,390 --> 00:23:50,559 next week to go look at those dates that 719 00:23:53,830 --> 00:23:52,400 i just described and we'll pull all the 720 00:23:55,350 --> 00:23:53,840 elements to see where their hardware is 721 00:23:58,310 --> 00:23:55,360 see where they're sitting but that's our 722 00:23:59,909 --> 00:23:58,320 current plans for the next two flights 723 00:24:01,269 --> 00:23:59,919 jim siegel celebration independent 724 00:24:03,430 --> 00:24:01,279 newspaper 725 00:24:06,549 --> 00:24:03,440 let's say that atlantis does fly another 726 00:24:08,149 --> 00:24:06,559 mission sts-135 727 00:24:10,070 --> 00:24:08,159 when all of those missions then are 728 00:24:12,870 --> 00:24:10,080 complete is it the plan 729 00:24:15,990 --> 00:24:12,880 to keep one of the shuttles atlantis or 730 00:24:17,590 --> 00:24:16,000 one of the others around just in case in 731 00:24:18,950 --> 00:24:17,600 the future 732 00:24:21,909 --> 00:24:18,960 some flight 733 00:24:23,269 --> 00:24:21,919 uh might be needed or are they all going 734 00:24:27,110 --> 00:24:23,279 to be 735 00:24:29,909 --> 00:24:27,120 essentially retired dismantled whatever 736 00:24:32,789 --> 00:24:29,919 i think our plan will be to to retire 737 00:24:34,549 --> 00:24:32,799 them all and distribute them to where 738 00:24:36,789 --> 00:24:34,559 they can be displayed 739 00:24:38,870 --> 00:24:36,799 the problem again is it's not just the 740 00:24:41,269 --> 00:24:38,880 vehicle itself the orbiter it we have to 741 00:24:42,710 --> 00:24:41,279 have an external tank which we we have 742 00:24:43,830 --> 00:24:42,720 parts and pieces but we don't have 743 00:24:45,430 --> 00:24:43,840 enough to actually put together an 744 00:24:46,390 --> 00:24:45,440 external tank we need solid rocket 745 00:24:48,710 --> 00:24:46,400 motors 746 00:24:49,909 --> 00:24:48,720 we stopped fabricating those so so again 747 00:24:51,669 --> 00:24:49,919 it's all the pieces that would have to 748 00:24:53,029 --> 00:24:51,679 come together to make it a 749 00:24:54,710 --> 00:24:53,039 you know essentially a spacecraft that 750 00:24:56,950 --> 00:24:54,720 we could go launch 751 00:24:58,789 --> 00:24:56,960 okay let's go uh robert perlman hi 752 00:25:01,190 --> 00:24:58,799 robert perlman from collectspace.com 753 00:25:02,789 --> 00:25:01,200 with a follow-up on that for gerst 754 00:25:06,710 --> 00:25:02,799 um 755 00:25:07,510 --> 00:25:06,720 the earliest nasa might make a decision 756 00:25:09,350 --> 00:25:07,520 on 757 00:25:11,269 --> 00:25:09,360 uh where the orbiters were going was 758 00:25:13,430 --> 00:25:11,279 going to be this july 759 00:25:15,230 --> 00:25:13,440 with the extension out to at least 760 00:25:17,830 --> 00:25:15,240 november for 761 00:25:19,669 --> 00:25:17,840 sts-134 are you still planning on july 762 00:25:21,830 --> 00:25:19,679 or is there a new target for when 763 00:25:23,029 --> 00:25:21,840 museums might learn where the orbiters 764 00:25:25,510 --> 00:25:23,039 are going 765 00:25:27,190 --> 00:25:25,520 again i think that's probably a pretty 766 00:25:28,470 --> 00:25:27,200 good day we might slip it a little bit 767 00:25:30,630 --> 00:25:28,480 but i wouldn't think it would be much 768 00:25:32,070 --> 00:25:30,640 earlier than that kind of time frame so 769 00:25:33,430 --> 00:25:32,080 it'd be the summer time frames probably 770 00:25:35,190 --> 00:25:33,440 a better way of stating it than picking 771 00:25:36,950 --> 00:25:35,200 a particular mine 772 00:25:38,149 --> 00:25:36,960 okay let's uh take a question from clara 773 00:25:39,750 --> 00:25:38,159 and then we'll go back over to the other 774 00:25:41,909 --> 00:25:39,760 side of the room here 775 00:25:44,390 --> 00:25:41,919 clara moskowitz with space.com and this 776 00:25:46,230 --> 00:25:44,400 is for mr krasnov i'm wondering um if 777 00:25:48,710 --> 00:25:46,240 you have an estimate for the cost of the 778 00:25:50,950 --> 00:25:48,720 new mrm one and it also if you could 779 00:25:52,230 --> 00:25:50,960 just speak on the added capability that 780 00:25:55,990 --> 00:25:52,240 the space station is going to have with 781 00:25:56,710 --> 00:25:56,000 this new room on board 782 00:26:01,269 --> 00:25:56,720 the 783 00:26:03,510 --> 00:26:01,279 hardware itself 784 00:26:05,190 --> 00:26:03,520 is about 200 785 00:26:07,350 --> 00:26:05,200 million dollars 786 00:26:10,070 --> 00:26:07,360 and the 787 00:26:12,149 --> 00:26:10,080 of the additional capabilities first of 788 00:26:12,950 --> 00:26:12,159 all the the volume of the module is 789 00:26:14,950 --> 00:26:12,960 about 790 00:26:18,310 --> 00:26:14,960 18 cubic meters 791 00:26:20,710 --> 00:26:18,320 the total mass is 7.9 tons 792 00:26:23,029 --> 00:26:20,720 it will provide additional eight working 793 00:26:24,310 --> 00:26:23,039 places so to speak in russian 794 00:26:27,430 --> 00:26:24,320 terminologies 795 00:26:31,269 --> 00:26:27,440 it's the terminals where we can 796 00:26:33,110 --> 00:26:31,279 install the uh associated hardware 797 00:26:34,230 --> 00:26:33,120 part of this hardware is already in a 798 00:26:35,990 --> 00:26:34,240 module and 799 00:26:41,350 --> 00:26:36,000 partially it will be delivered later on 800 00:26:44,070 --> 00:26:41,360 later on it also has a for 801 00:26:46,470 --> 00:26:44,080 external payload capabilities 802 00:26:48,710 --> 00:26:46,480 which will enhance for the existing 803 00:26:51,350 --> 00:26:48,720 capabilities of the service module 804 00:26:54,789 --> 00:26:51,360 that we also deliver with this module 805 00:26:58,549 --> 00:26:54,799 the spare for european robotic arm 806 00:27:02,789 --> 00:26:58,559 which is to be uh launched with the mlm 807 00:27:07,909 --> 00:27:02,799 multi-purpose laboratory module in 2012. 808 00:27:12,470 --> 00:27:10,390 operations of uh 809 00:27:13,669 --> 00:27:12,480 european robotic arm further on because 810 00:27:16,950 --> 00:27:13,679 it's uh 811 00:27:19,590 --> 00:27:16,960 in absence of space shuttle it would be 812 00:27:20,950 --> 00:27:19,600 impossible to deliver such a spur due to 813 00:27:22,549 --> 00:27:20,960 the 814 00:27:27,029 --> 00:27:22,559 dimensions 815 00:27:30,789 --> 00:27:28,710 radiator for 816 00:27:35,269 --> 00:27:30,799 heat 817 00:27:36,149 --> 00:27:35,279 thermal control system 818 00:27:39,909 --> 00:27:36,159 for 819 00:27:42,630 --> 00:27:39,919 multi-purpose laboratory model 820 00:27:44,630 --> 00:27:42,640 uh therefore it's uh it's it's not big 821 00:27:46,630 --> 00:27:44,640 it's not big but it's a 822 00:27:48,710 --> 00:27:46,640 pretty interesting module which will add 823 00:27:52,389 --> 00:27:48,720 the new capabilities and we 824 00:27:53,909 --> 00:27:52,399 really excited to to see this uh 825 00:27:54,710 --> 00:27:53,919 today's launch 826 00:27:56,549 --> 00:27:54,720 very 827 00:27:58,950 --> 00:27:56,559 successful launch into the space station 828 00:28:02,549 --> 00:27:58,960 which will deliver 829 00:28:03,750 --> 00:28:02,559 the module to the orbit and on the 18th 830 00:28:05,590 --> 00:28:03,760 where 831 00:28:08,710 --> 00:28:05,600 part of our team has planned to be in 832 00:28:11,269 --> 00:28:08,720 the mcc houston to participate in the 833 00:28:12,230 --> 00:28:11,279 birthing uh process as bill mentioned 834 00:28:13,909 --> 00:28:12,240 it's not 835 00:28:16,950 --> 00:28:13,919 an easy 836 00:28:19,190 --> 00:28:16,960 operation it's pretty unique because the 837 00:28:21,990 --> 00:28:19,200 docking 838 00:28:24,230 --> 00:28:22,000 for the modules were made in the active 839 00:28:27,590 --> 00:28:24,240 mode so to speak and the 840 00:28:30,389 --> 00:28:27,600 bursting will be provided by a canadian 841 00:28:31,909 --> 00:28:30,399 robotic arm on a space station 842 00:28:32,789 --> 00:28:31,919 thank you okay 843 00:28:35,269 --> 00:28:32,799 okay 844 00:28:37,830 --> 00:28:35,279 hi thank you ken cramer for space flight 845 00:28:40,070 --> 00:28:37,840 magazine and planetary society for mr 846 00:28:42,070 --> 00:28:40,080 krasnov i'd like to expand a little bit 847 00:28:44,470 --> 00:28:42,080 more about russia's plans in the future 848 00:28:46,310 --> 00:28:44,480 for space exploration can you tell us 849 00:28:47,909 --> 00:28:46,320 about uh the upgrades you're doing to 850 00:28:49,669 --> 00:28:47,919 the soyuz capsule 851 00:28:51,190 --> 00:28:49,679 uh will you develop a replacement the 852 00:28:53,590 --> 00:28:51,200 clipper there's been a lot of discussion 853 00:28:54,950 --> 00:28:53,600 of that is there actually a plan and can 854 00:28:56,950 --> 00:28:54,960 you tell us a little bit about your 855 00:28:58,470 --> 00:28:56,960 planetary missions phobos grunt and 856 00:29:01,110 --> 00:28:58,480 other missions to mars it's a phobos 857 00:29:03,110 --> 00:29:01,120 grunt on time for uh i believe 2011 858 00:29:05,830 --> 00:29:03,120 launched thank you 859 00:29:10,310 --> 00:29:07,350 we uh 860 00:29:13,269 --> 00:29:10,320 we are planning to upgrade uh for 861 00:29:16,470 --> 00:29:13,279 even if are for hearing the the name of 862 00:29:18,789 --> 00:29:16,480 uh soyuz vehicle is not changing but the 863 00:29:20,310 --> 00:29:18,799 vehicle itself is changing a lot 864 00:29:23,750 --> 00:29:20,320 uh from 865 00:29:25,590 --> 00:29:23,760 each every vehicle further on and uh 866 00:29:26,389 --> 00:29:25,600 we are planning to launch new series so 867 00:29:29,190 --> 00:29:26,399 so 868 00:29:32,630 --> 00:29:29,200 it's in a manufacturing plant it's 869 00:29:34,310 --> 00:29:32,640 called 700 syria uh soyuz vehicle with 870 00:29:37,750 --> 00:29:34,320 the new for 871 00:29:39,190 --> 00:29:37,760 command control system upgraded 872 00:29:41,269 --> 00:29:39,200 and some 873 00:29:44,549 --> 00:29:41,279 other systems which are 874 00:29:47,190 --> 00:29:44,559 uh different what we used to for we 875 00:29:50,149 --> 00:29:47,200 what we used to 876 00:29:52,149 --> 00:29:50,159 apply to the to those vehicles 877 00:29:54,310 --> 00:29:52,159 some tests were made with the progress 878 00:29:56,310 --> 00:29:54,320 vehicles which we already started 879 00:29:59,590 --> 00:29:56,320 launching in last year 880 00:30:02,710 --> 00:29:59,600 it's a 400 series for vehicle 881 00:30:05,029 --> 00:30:02,720 which also for 882 00:30:06,149 --> 00:30:05,039 quite a change from the previous uh 883 00:30:08,789 --> 00:30:06,159 version 884 00:30:10,470 --> 00:30:08,799 of the cargo vehicle we we used in the 885 00:30:12,389 --> 00:30:10,480 program 886 00:30:13,590 --> 00:30:12,399 any uh 887 00:30:18,310 --> 00:30:13,600 uh 888 00:30:20,950 --> 00:30:18,320 what we ought to do 889 00:30:22,630 --> 00:30:20,960 with the low earth orbit uh 890 00:30:25,110 --> 00:30:22,640 human flight 891 00:30:27,029 --> 00:30:25,120 is there a human presence on low earth's 892 00:30:29,190 --> 00:30:27,039 orbit and what is the wisdom 893 00:30:31,909 --> 00:30:29,200 and definitely if the space station i 894 00:30:33,269 --> 00:30:31,919 believe uh has a great capacity to prove 895 00:30:35,110 --> 00:30:33,279 that if 896 00:30:36,870 --> 00:30:35,120 we we shall be on the 897 00:30:39,430 --> 00:30:36,880 of loss or 898 00:30:41,350 --> 00:30:39,440 low earth or orbit regardless 899 00:30:42,950 --> 00:30:41,360 our plans for 900 00:30:44,630 --> 00:30:42,960 exploration 901 00:30:45,909 --> 00:30:44,640 uh it shall be 902 00:30:50,310 --> 00:30:45,919 excuse me 903 00:30:53,029 --> 00:30:51,190 we 904 00:30:55,430 --> 00:30:53,039 are planning to 905 00:30:59,590 --> 00:30:55,440 explore 906 00:31:04,870 --> 00:31:02,470 on the capabilities to assemble 907 00:31:07,430 --> 00:31:04,880 a small spacecraft 908 00:31:10,789 --> 00:31:07,440 on a on the basis of 909 00:31:12,389 --> 00:31:10,799 iss which will be capable of departing 910 00:31:15,190 --> 00:31:12,399 from the iss 911 00:31:17,029 --> 00:31:15,200 to certain point of destination beyond 912 00:31:19,750 --> 00:31:17,039 low earth orbit which is pretty 913 00:31:20,950 --> 00:31:19,760 challenging and interesting idea 914 00:31:22,950 --> 00:31:20,960 but it 915 00:31:25,909 --> 00:31:22,960 it will take some time to 916 00:31:29,990 --> 00:31:28,149 define the technology and 917 00:31:32,870 --> 00:31:30,000 destination point certainly will will 918 00:31:34,870 --> 00:31:32,880 provide quite an influence 919 00:31:37,110 --> 00:31:34,880 therefore 920 00:31:40,310 --> 00:31:37,120 in in our perspective we are planning to 921 00:31:43,990 --> 00:31:40,320 use low earth orbit beyond the iss if 922 00:31:45,750 --> 00:31:44,000 iss for any reason will not be operable 923 00:31:48,549 --> 00:31:45,760 after 2020 924 00:31:51,110 --> 00:31:48,559 that is uh that's our uh 925 00:31:56,630 --> 00:31:51,120 vision for human space flight 926 00:32:03,830 --> 00:32:00,870 working on the new vehicle which is 927 00:32:07,110 --> 00:32:03,840 it's a little bit similar to what uh 928 00:32:13,190 --> 00:32:10,470 is or was what whatever you will use 929 00:32:15,750 --> 00:32:13,200 in this instance of 930 00:32:16,470 --> 00:32:15,760 that is a little bit similar in terms of 931 00:32:18,950 --> 00:32:16,480 the 932 00:32:20,630 --> 00:32:18,960 overall concept 933 00:32:24,549 --> 00:32:20,640 but we believe that 934 00:32:27,750 --> 00:32:26,230 warrant of this 935 00:32:30,149 --> 00:32:27,760 vehicle will be 936 00:32:32,950 --> 00:32:30,159 used for the low earth orbit to test it 937 00:32:33,909 --> 00:32:32,960 on the iss as a test ground 938 00:32:35,990 --> 00:32:33,919 and then 939 00:32:37,909 --> 00:32:36,000 we we are planning to upgrade it for the 940 00:32:38,870 --> 00:32:37,919 exploration goals 941 00:32:42,070 --> 00:32:38,880 which 942 00:32:44,950 --> 00:32:42,080 will likely to have a modular 943 00:32:46,789 --> 00:32:44,960 principle of assembly 944 00:32:47,590 --> 00:32:46,799 that's 945 00:32:52,230 --> 00:32:47,600 as 946 00:32:53,269 --> 00:32:52,240 whole vision for the human space flight 947 00:32:57,750 --> 00:32:53,279 what 948 00:32:59,669 --> 00:32:57,760 planning the planetary of only on a 949 00:33:01,750 --> 00:32:59,679 fabulous uh it is 950 00:33:03,430 --> 00:33:01,760 moving unfortunately to the right due to 951 00:33:05,430 --> 00:33:03,440 the payload 952 00:33:07,669 --> 00:33:05,440 problems 953 00:33:09,830 --> 00:33:07,679 yes 954 00:33:12,389 --> 00:33:09,840 randy siegel wstu radio that's for 955 00:33:14,950 --> 00:33:12,399 either bill or mr kresnov i understand 956 00:33:18,149 --> 00:33:14,960 that the kotev crew is going to be 957 00:33:20,630 --> 00:33:18,159 delayed a week in coming home 958 00:33:22,789 --> 00:33:20,640 is that been official or is it going to 959 00:33:24,870 --> 00:33:22,799 create any problems that are there 960 00:33:27,590 --> 00:33:24,880 and a follow-up rule would be 961 00:33:28,710 --> 00:33:27,600 the station was planned for 15 not for 962 00:33:30,470 --> 00:33:28,720 20. 963 00:33:33,269 --> 00:33:30,480 are we going to have all the correct 964 00:33:37,430 --> 00:33:33,279 parts up there as spares to take us the 965 00:33:43,269 --> 00:33:40,389 the uh cutoff screw 966 00:33:45,990 --> 00:33:43,279 is not actually delayed we we 967 00:33:47,590 --> 00:33:46,000 uh shifted the launch date from the 14 968 00:33:49,269 --> 00:33:47,600 which was the original date of the 969 00:33:51,269 --> 00:33:49,279 service launch in june 970 00:33:53,990 --> 00:33:51,279 to the 16th of june 971 00:33:56,549 --> 00:33:54,000 and we apparently move 972 00:33:57,669 --> 00:33:56,559 for the same two days to the right of 973 00:33:59,830 --> 00:33:57,679 the landing 974 00:34:01,990 --> 00:33:59,840 to provide for the same window 975 00:34:03,990 --> 00:34:02,000 therefore it's known for 976 00:34:07,029 --> 00:34:04,000 changes in the in the philosophy and the 977 00:34:10,230 --> 00:34:07,039 cut of crew is scheduled to 978 00:34:12,790 --> 00:34:10,240 get back to earth on the second of june 979 00:34:15,270 --> 00:34:12,800 and for 980 00:34:16,230 --> 00:34:15,280 for probability i believe bill will will 981 00:34:19,589 --> 00:34:16,240 add but 982 00:34:22,470 --> 00:34:19,599 for you see we planned for 15 years 983 00:34:24,310 --> 00:34:22,480 and it was on paper when we negotiated 984 00:34:26,230 --> 00:34:24,320 iga and mousse 985 00:34:28,470 --> 00:34:26,240 that was our desire to assemble space 986 00:34:30,790 --> 00:34:28,480 station within five years but many 987 00:34:32,310 --> 00:34:30,800 things provided a big impact on the 988 00:34:34,470 --> 00:34:32,320 development of the space station on 989 00:34:35,829 --> 00:34:34,480 orbit 990 00:34:37,589 --> 00:34:35,839 we do have 991 00:34:40,149 --> 00:34:37,599 there is a similarity what we used to 992 00:34:41,190 --> 00:34:40,159 have is mere space station well where we 993 00:34:43,829 --> 00:34:41,200 had 994 00:34:46,310 --> 00:34:43,839 old modules and pretty new ones spectre 995 00:34:48,869 --> 00:34:46,320 and piroda which were on orbit only for 996 00:34:52,790 --> 00:34:48,879 three years 997 00:34:53,990 --> 00:34:52,800 the same here we do have fresh modules 998 00:34:56,550 --> 00:34:54,000 european 999 00:34:58,390 --> 00:34:56,560 japanese 1000 00:35:00,470 --> 00:34:58,400 we do have old 1001 00:35:03,750 --> 00:35:00,480 and it's a challenge 1002 00:35:06,470 --> 00:35:03,760 to explore how we can stretch 1003 00:35:08,069 --> 00:35:06,480 but on a very solid ground of uh 1004 00:35:10,550 --> 00:35:08,079 justification 1005 00:35:12,550 --> 00:35:10,560 the service life on orbit and what is 1006 00:35:13,829 --> 00:35:12,560 necessary first of all the challenge is 1007 00:35:19,270 --> 00:35:13,839 structural 1008 00:35:21,990 --> 00:35:19,280 believe that the first modules could be 1009 00:35:25,829 --> 00:35:22,000 proved to be operable further on 1010 00:35:28,550 --> 00:35:25,839 2020 is very feasible feasible goal 1011 00:35:31,030 --> 00:35:28,560 for the amount of spares of course 1012 00:35:33,190 --> 00:35:31,040 that's a very right question to ask 1013 00:35:35,030 --> 00:35:33,200 and the we we will have a challenge in 1014 00:35:37,430 --> 00:35:35,040 absence of space shuttle 1015 00:35:39,270 --> 00:35:37,440 we do have the same opinion and so i 1016 00:35:42,630 --> 00:35:39,280 understand all of you 1017 00:35:44,630 --> 00:35:42,640 uh we wish space shuttle are flying and 1018 00:35:46,790 --> 00:35:44,640 flying on further on 1019 00:35:50,470 --> 00:35:46,800 let's see let's see 1020 00:35:52,950 --> 00:35:50,480 the same level of uh redundancy when we 1021 00:35:55,990 --> 00:35:52,960 all together decided that the 1022 00:35:58,790 --> 00:35:56,000 redundancy in the uh transportation mode 1023 00:36:00,710 --> 00:35:58,800 of the crew up to space station is 1024 00:36:03,750 --> 00:36:00,720 absolutely necessary 1025 00:36:06,550 --> 00:36:03,760 uh ground to achieve safety 1026 00:36:08,069 --> 00:36:06,560 and that that's why the for 1027 00:36:10,550 --> 00:36:08,079 the 1028 00:36:11,670 --> 00:36:10,560 it was a for space station freedom 1029 00:36:13,109 --> 00:36:11,680 redesigned redesign 1030 00:36:15,990 --> 00:36:13,119 launched for 1031 00:36:16,790 --> 00:36:16,000 one of the reasons that to rely on the 1032 00:36:20,390 --> 00:36:16,800 one 1033 00:36:21,589 --> 00:36:20,400 transportation system is really risky 1034 00:36:24,230 --> 00:36:21,599 and uh 1035 00:36:26,950 --> 00:36:24,240 colombia actually proved it 1036 00:36:28,550 --> 00:36:26,960 to be so and uh though we sustained 1037 00:36:29,910 --> 00:36:28,560 space station only because the 1038 00:36:31,829 --> 00:36:29,920 redundancy and the transportation 1039 00:36:34,710 --> 00:36:31,839 capabilities therefore it will be a 1040 00:36:35,910 --> 00:36:34,720 challenge for us first of all to uh to 1041 00:36:39,270 --> 00:36:35,920 provide these transportation 1042 00:36:42,470 --> 00:36:39,280 capabilities and logistics 1043 00:36:45,430 --> 00:36:42,480 is uh our european colleagues up uh they 1044 00:36:46,870 --> 00:36:45,440 do have their own limitations to provide 1045 00:36:48,870 --> 00:36:46,880 uh for 1046 00:36:49,670 --> 00:36:48,880 uh 1047 00:36:56,790 --> 00:36:49,680 the 1048 00:36:57,589 --> 00:36:56,800 htv is also pretty expensive vehicle as 1049 00:37:00,310 --> 00:36:57,599 well 1050 00:37:01,510 --> 00:37:00,320 and we will be eager to see commercial 1051 00:37:04,630 --> 00:37:01,520 success 1052 00:37:06,470 --> 00:37:04,640 on on u.s soil which which is being 1053 00:37:08,870 --> 00:37:06,480 launched that's 1054 00:37:10,630 --> 00:37:08,880 that's many many components which will 1055 00:37:13,589 --> 00:37:10,640 improve 1056 00:37:15,670 --> 00:37:13,599 could provide an impact on our success 1057 00:37:17,670 --> 00:37:15,680 thank you and we've done a very detailed 1058 00:37:19,670 --> 00:37:17,680 analysis in terms of logistics spares 1059 00:37:21,190 --> 00:37:19,680 and what equipment we need and and i 1060 00:37:23,829 --> 00:37:21,200 think we're good all the way through the 1061 00:37:25,829 --> 00:37:23,839 2020 time frame the big challenge will 1062 00:37:28,150 --> 00:37:25,839 be we really want to increase the 1063 00:37:30,310 --> 00:37:28,160 research and utilization so the the big 1064 00:37:31,829 --> 00:37:30,320 advantage of a longer planning horizon 1065 00:37:33,349 --> 00:37:31,839 is now we let researchers know that 1066 00:37:34,790 --> 00:37:33,359 we're going to be in operation for an 1067 00:37:36,550 --> 00:37:34,800 extended period of time what kind of 1068 00:37:38,310 --> 00:37:36,560 research could be done what should be 1069 00:37:39,829 --> 00:37:38,320 done with station can we start 1070 00:37:41,430 --> 00:37:39,839 developing some of that research so we 1071 00:37:43,589 --> 00:37:41,440 can get it up and actually get a good 1072 00:37:45,589 --> 00:37:43,599 return on investment some from research 1073 00:37:48,550 --> 00:37:45,599 so i think the basic 1074 00:37:50,870 --> 00:37:48,560 facility keeping things operational is 1075 00:37:52,550 --> 00:37:50,880 working well we're seeing fairly low 1076 00:37:53,910 --> 00:37:52,560 failure rates so far actually better 1077 00:37:55,829 --> 00:37:53,920 than some of our predictions so that's 1078 00:37:58,069 --> 00:37:55,839 very encouraging to us but the challenge 1079 00:37:59,829 --> 00:37:58,079 is going to be can we get a very robust 1080 00:38:01,349 --> 00:37:59,839 research plan in place that we can make 1081 00:38:02,310 --> 00:38:01,359 sure we get the right samples up to 1082 00:38:03,990 --> 00:38:02,320 station 1083 00:38:05,910 --> 00:38:04,000 return some things we have a little bit 1084 00:38:08,150 --> 00:38:05,920 of limited return for a while until 1085 00:38:09,270 --> 00:38:08,160 space spacex comes online but then once 1086 00:38:11,270 --> 00:38:09,280 they're online then we can return 1087 00:38:12,870 --> 00:38:11,280 samples but we need to really do some 1088 00:38:14,230 --> 00:38:12,880 thought and really get planning on the 1089 00:38:17,349 --> 00:38:14,240 research side and we're starting to make 1090 00:38:19,030 --> 00:38:17,359 real big strides in that area right now 1091 00:38:21,270 --> 00:38:19,040 stefano 1092 00:38:22,950 --> 00:38:21,280 uh stephanie coladan with italian state 1093 00:38:23,990 --> 00:38:22,960 radio and television news 1094 00:38:26,390 --> 00:38:24,000 um 1095 00:38:29,270 --> 00:38:26,400 you i have a question either for mike 1096 00:38:30,550 --> 00:38:29,280 moses or mike lambert 1097 00:38:32,790 --> 00:38:30,560 for the over the 1098 00:38:34,870 --> 00:38:32,800 past year year and a half you have been 1099 00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:34,880 launching shuttles with the punctuality 1100 00:38:38,310 --> 00:38:36,720 of swiss trains 1101 00:38:39,750 --> 00:38:38,320 i mean it's just 1102 00:38:42,230 --> 00:38:39,760 almost amazing 1103 00:38:43,270 --> 00:38:42,240 and i was wondering what you attribute 1104 00:38:44,470 --> 00:38:43,280 that to 1105 00:38:46,710 --> 00:38:44,480 and 1106 00:38:48,710 --> 00:38:46,720 talking of amazement aren't you a little 1107 00:38:51,430 --> 00:38:48,720 bit amazed of 1108 00:38:55,190 --> 00:38:51,440 your own accomplishment i mean 1109 00:38:58,390 --> 00:38:57,109 i mean it used to be 1110 00:39:00,790 --> 00:38:58,400 i'll go first it's very difficult to 1111 00:39:02,790 --> 00:39:00,800 launch shuttles uh some time ago and now 1112 00:39:05,750 --> 00:39:02,800 they go up like as i said go up like 1113 00:39:07,430 --> 00:39:05,760 clockwork doesn't it yeah now uh 1114 00:39:09,589 --> 00:39:07,440 i attribute it to two things one the 1115 00:39:11,910 --> 00:39:09,599 maturity of the hardware we understand 1116 00:39:13,589 --> 00:39:11,920 the hardware extremely well now we've 1117 00:39:15,910 --> 00:39:13,599 seen most problems before and we're able 1118 00:39:17,349 --> 00:39:15,920 to react to them if we get them 1119 00:39:18,870 --> 00:39:17,359 and then the maturity of the team 1120 00:39:20,710 --> 00:39:18,880 processing team and the launch team and 1121 00:39:23,109 --> 00:39:20,720 the flight teams who react to those 1122 00:39:25,430 --> 00:39:23,119 problems and get them resolved very very 1123 00:39:28,630 --> 00:39:25,440 quickly so it's a testament to uh to the 1124 00:39:30,150 --> 00:39:28,640 teams it's also you know indicative of a 1125 00:39:30,870 --> 00:39:30,160 program that's been around a while uh 1126 00:39:33,910 --> 00:39:30,880 you 1127 00:39:35,270 --> 00:39:33,920 to encounter problems for the first time 1128 00:39:37,670 --> 00:39:35,280 they're typically going to take longer 1129 00:39:39,270 --> 00:39:37,680 to solve i think any any new space 1130 00:39:40,710 --> 00:39:39,280 flight program will encounter those 1131 00:39:42,790 --> 00:39:40,720 types of problems 1132 00:39:45,510 --> 00:39:42,800 talk to the spacex launch director today 1133 00:39:46,630 --> 00:39:45,520 at length had lunch with him and uh we 1134 00:39:47,829 --> 00:39:46,640 we talked about a lot of different 1135 00:39:49,109 --> 00:39:47,839 things and that was one of the things we 1136 00:39:50,550 --> 00:39:49,119 talked about you 1137 00:39:52,390 --> 00:39:50,560 he's going to see problems for the first 1138 00:39:53,829 --> 00:39:52,400 time and they will react to him they'll 1139 00:39:55,190 --> 00:39:53,839 solve those problems and then and then 1140 00:39:56,470 --> 00:39:55,200 they'll have that in their goody book 1141 00:39:57,270 --> 00:39:56,480 they'll be able to solve that same 1142 00:39:59,670 --> 00:39:57,280 problem 1143 00:40:02,069 --> 00:39:59,680 easier the second time if they get it 1144 00:40:03,910 --> 00:40:02,079 it's it's a nature of the business and 1145 00:40:06,150 --> 00:40:03,920 a mature vehicle mature team are going 1146 00:40:07,670 --> 00:40:06,160 to perform better than better than a 1147 00:40:09,349 --> 00:40:07,680 first-time team i mean it's just as 1148 00:40:11,750 --> 00:40:09,359 simple as that 1149 00:40:13,510 --> 00:40:11,760 does it amaze me it amazes me every time 1150 00:40:16,790 --> 00:40:13,520 we launch the space shuttle 1151 00:40:19,109 --> 00:40:16,800 it is it is an engineering marvel 1152 00:40:21,829 --> 00:40:19,119 and people that work on it are are the 1153 00:40:25,589 --> 00:40:21,839 best in the world so yes it amazes me 1154 00:40:29,589 --> 00:40:27,910 always caution the team is that 1155 00:40:31,589 --> 00:40:29,599 you know we're like a 1156 00:40:33,270 --> 00:40:31,599 pro athlete that's performing at the top 1157 00:40:35,430 --> 00:40:33,280 of their game and it's not easy to stay 1158 00:40:37,109 --> 00:40:35,440 at the top of your game so i keep 1159 00:40:39,430 --> 00:40:37,119 challenging the team to keep looking for 1160 00:40:41,030 --> 00:40:39,440 other ways to to not take for granted 1161 00:40:42,710 --> 00:40:41,040 what's happening because it really does 1162 00:40:44,150 --> 00:40:42,720 take work it takes this tremendous team 1163 00:40:46,150 --> 00:40:44,160 that mike talked about i mean without 1164 00:40:47,670 --> 00:40:46,160 these guys really looking and 1165 00:40:49,270 --> 00:40:47,680 questioning things as their dissemble 1166 00:40:51,670 --> 00:40:49,280 and hardware even though they've done it 1167 00:40:53,829 --> 00:40:51,680 several times they still got to be keep 1168 00:40:55,190 --> 00:40:53,839 looking is this exactly the same way is 1169 00:40:57,430 --> 00:40:55,200 there something else we ought to ask so 1170 00:40:59,589 --> 00:40:57,440 i keep asking the teams to just really 1171 00:41:00,950 --> 00:40:59,599 stay focused and don't get complacent in 1172 00:41:02,950 --> 00:41:00,960 what we're doing because this is not 1173 00:41:05,270 --> 00:41:02,960 easy in any stretch of the imagination 1174 00:41:06,950 --> 00:41:05,280 and we can get in trouble when we start 1175 00:41:08,790 --> 00:41:06,960 taking for granted what we're doing and 1176 00:41:10,550 --> 00:41:08,800 it is not easy it's a it's a true 1177 00:41:12,790 --> 00:41:10,560 tribute to the team and i want this team 1178 00:41:14,069 --> 00:41:12,800 to stay encouraged to stay focused and 1179 00:41:16,230 --> 00:41:14,079 keep doing all the awesome work that 1180 00:41:18,550 --> 00:41:16,240 they've been doing 1181 00:41:19,670 --> 00:41:18,560 uh pete tribuco and astra magazine sorry 1182 00:41:21,990 --> 00:41:19,680 about that 1183 00:41:23,990 --> 00:41:22,000 real quick question with the addition of 1184 00:41:25,030 --> 00:41:24,000 this this last flight or next flight in 1185 00:41:26,710 --> 00:41:25,040 june 1186 00:41:28,550 --> 00:41:26,720 i'm sure there are four additional 1187 00:41:30,630 --> 00:41:28,560 astronauts and crew members who are very 1188 00:41:32,390 --> 00:41:30,640 happy about that is this in any way 1189 00:41:34,550 --> 00:41:32,400 shape or form going to affect the crew 1190 00:41:36,390 --> 00:41:34,560 rotation that might be set up or might 1191 00:41:37,750 --> 00:41:36,400 not be set up obviously you're going to 1192 00:41:39,349 --> 00:41:37,760 need different people doing different 1193 00:41:41,030 --> 00:41:39,359 things and obviously you want to have 1194 00:41:42,710 --> 00:41:41,040 the most experienced eva people out 1195 00:41:45,670 --> 00:41:42,720 there and is this going to in any way 1196 00:41:47,670 --> 00:41:45,680 affect that rotation if that's already 1197 00:41:49,589 --> 00:41:47,680 been taken care of i think it's too 1198 00:41:51,430 --> 00:41:49,599 early to tell you know we haven't even 1199 00:41:53,750 --> 00:41:51,440 been told to go do this flight so we're 1200 00:41:55,430 --> 00:41:53,760 all sitting here speculating right so we 1201 00:41:57,750 --> 00:41:55,440 could very well only do the two 1202 00:41:59,270 --> 00:41:57,760 remaining flights and then the plans 1203 00:42:01,109 --> 00:41:59,280 that we've got in place are pretty solid 1204 00:42:03,190 --> 00:42:01,119 i don't think there'll be a big change 1205 00:42:04,550 --> 00:42:03,200 but if we get asked we'll take a look at 1206 00:42:06,230 --> 00:42:04,560 it we'll make sure we do the right thing 1207 00:42:07,190 --> 00:42:06,240 overall 1208 00:42:09,910 --> 00:42:07,200 jay 1209 00:42:12,309 --> 00:42:09,920 bill a quick follow-up 1210 00:42:14,710 --> 00:42:12,319 you're using a term june are you using 1211 00:42:17,109 --> 00:42:14,720 june coming up to know if you're going 1212 00:42:19,510 --> 00:42:17,119 to fly the extra mission or are you 1213 00:42:22,790 --> 00:42:19,520 talking about flying the extra mission 1214 00:42:26,630 --> 00:42:22,800 in next june june of 2011. and also for 1215 00:42:28,870 --> 00:42:26,640 mr krasnoff uh your agency reported this 1216 00:42:30,790 --> 00:42:28,880 morning that in an elliptical orbit you 1217 00:42:32,630 --> 00:42:30,800 have a piece of debris that's headed 1218 00:42:34,470 --> 00:42:32,640 toward the space station 1219 00:42:37,670 --> 00:42:34,480 and arrive about 1220 00:42:40,470 --> 00:42:37,680 11 30 sunday morning can you tell us any 1221 00:42:42,230 --> 00:42:40,480 more about that if it's a real threat 1222 00:42:43,030 --> 00:42:42,240 or what's the latest that we know about 1223 00:42:49,430 --> 00:42:43,040 it 1224 00:42:51,510 --> 00:42:49,440 to know whether we're going to do the 1225 00:42:54,230 --> 00:42:51,520 mission and then ideally we would like 1226 00:42:57,510 --> 00:42:54,240 to fly the mission in june 2011. so did 1227 00:42:59,670 --> 00:42:57,520 i say i said 2010 2010 we need to decide 1228 00:43:01,430 --> 00:42:59,680 2011 is when we would fly the mission so 1229 00:43:03,270 --> 00:43:01,440 about a year apart but it's june and 1230 00:43:05,990 --> 00:43:03,280 june and in terms of the other thing we 1231 00:43:07,910 --> 00:43:06,000 are tracking a piece of debris 1232 00:43:09,990 --> 00:43:07,920 we've alerted the teams to go do a 1233 00:43:12,150 --> 00:43:10,000 maneuver they've calculated three or 1234 00:43:13,750 --> 00:43:12,160 four different maneuvers we could go do 1235 00:43:15,510 --> 00:43:13,760 it's a little unique with the shuttle 1236 00:43:17,190 --> 00:43:15,520 going up to rendezvous we need to be 1237 00:43:18,470 --> 00:43:17,200 very careful what kind of maneuver we do 1238 00:43:20,069 --> 00:43:18,480 they've looked at it i think the 1239 00:43:21,510 --> 00:43:20,079 maneuver would be on sunday if we 1240 00:43:23,589 --> 00:43:21,520 determine we need to go do it but 1241 00:43:25,349 --> 00:43:23,599 they'll continue to track the object for 1242 00:43:26,950 --> 00:43:25,359 several days get a good understanding of 1243 00:43:28,870 --> 00:43:26,960 where the object is and if they need to 1244 00:43:32,710 --> 00:43:28,880 make an adjustment in the station they 1245 00:43:35,270 --> 00:43:34,309 bill here you're the joy fm radio in 1246 00:43:36,870 --> 00:43:35,280 florida 1247 00:43:39,430 --> 00:43:36,880 uh this week i've spent the last two 1248 00:43:41,750 --> 00:43:39,440 days with 150 participants here invited 1249 00:43:43,349 --> 00:43:41,760 by nasa for a nasa tweet up 1250 00:43:44,230 --> 00:43:43,359 and it seems like the attitude they have 1251 00:43:45,910 --> 00:43:44,240 is that they're they're kind of 1252 00:43:47,430 --> 00:43:45,920 discouraged that we're towards the end 1253 00:43:49,349 --> 00:43:47,440 of the manned space flight how can we 1254 00:43:50,630 --> 00:43:49,359 encourage those educators and mothers 1255 00:43:52,790 --> 00:43:50,640 and fathers that are there in the tweet 1256 00:43:54,309 --> 00:43:52,800 up this week that there is a future in 1257 00:43:55,910 --> 00:43:54,319 space 1258 00:43:57,829 --> 00:43:55,920 well again i think there's a there's a 1259 00:43:59,910 --> 00:43:57,839 big future in space and it's really the 1260 00:44:01,349 --> 00:43:59,920 space station and when you take a look 1261 00:44:02,790 --> 00:44:01,359 at the station and the international 1262 00:44:04,630 --> 00:44:02,800 partners and the involvement and the 1263 00:44:06,870 --> 00:44:04,640 activities we're going to be doing from 1264 00:44:08,309 --> 00:44:06,880 station that's a pretty bright future 1265 00:44:09,910 --> 00:44:08,319 for us so we need to look forward to 1266 00:44:11,270 --> 00:44:09,920 that we don't have some of the details 1267 00:44:13,349 --> 00:44:11,280 figured out yet but we'll get those 1268 00:44:14,870 --> 00:44:13,359 plans together it's definitely going to 1269 00:44:17,910 --> 00:44:14,880 the future will involve international 1270 00:44:20,390 --> 00:44:17,920 partnerships as alexi talked about if we 1271 00:44:22,230 --> 00:44:20,400 can use station to build some potential 1272 00:44:24,390 --> 00:44:22,240 spacecraft to go different places we can 1273 00:44:26,069 --> 00:44:24,400 look at that internationally there's a 1274 00:44:27,829 --> 00:44:26,079 pretty bright future for all that stuff 1275 00:44:29,349 --> 00:44:27,839 and if you go look at the research the 1276 00:44:31,990 --> 00:44:29,359 kind of activities we're doing on 1277 00:44:34,390 --> 00:44:32,000 station it's not as glamorous as a 1278 00:44:36,630 --> 00:44:34,400 launch but some of the research has real 1279 00:44:38,230 --> 00:44:36,640 applications to what's going on here at 1280 00:44:40,309 --> 00:44:38,240 earth we know we have a hyper 1281 00:44:42,710 --> 00:44:40,319 spectrometer on station that's actually 1282 00:44:44,950 --> 00:44:42,720 imaging some of the oil spill activities 1283 00:44:46,230 --> 00:44:44,960 that the crews are making some some big 1284 00:44:48,390 --> 00:44:46,240 strides and 1285 00:44:50,630 --> 00:44:48,400 some plant research looking at potential 1286 00:44:53,109 --> 00:44:50,640 jutropia to go look at new aviation 1287 00:44:55,430 --> 00:44:53,119 fuels to see if we can find maybe a 1288 00:44:57,190 --> 00:44:55,440 genetically modified or changed plant 1289 00:44:58,790 --> 00:44:57,200 from from the exposure to space that 1290 00:45:00,790 --> 00:44:58,800 might actually improve the production or 1291 00:45:02,230 --> 00:45:00,800 the amount of biofuel we get so if you 1292 00:45:03,910 --> 00:45:02,240 take a look at all the things we're 1293 00:45:05,670 --> 00:45:03,920 doing on station the things we're doing 1294 00:45:08,390 --> 00:45:05,680 internationally the way we're looking to 1295 00:45:10,790 --> 00:45:08,400 go forward to get beyond low earth orbit 1296 00:45:12,470 --> 00:45:10,800 this is a pretty promising time so so 1297 00:45:14,309 --> 00:45:12,480 these missions are special the launches 1298 00:45:16,150 --> 00:45:14,319 are there we're in a transition phase 1299 00:45:18,150 --> 00:45:16,160 it's our job now to catch that next 1300 00:45:19,990 --> 00:45:18,160 vision to get excited about it to push 1301 00:45:21,670 --> 00:45:20,000 forward and to go do those exciting and 1302 00:45:23,109 --> 00:45:21,680 bold things in exploration that we 1303 00:45:24,710 --> 00:45:23,119 really want to go do so that's the 1304 00:45:26,630 --> 00:45:24,720 message that we've got to carry out 1305 00:45:28,150 --> 00:45:26,640 don't focus on what we're losing but 1306 00:45:30,550 --> 00:45:28,160 focus on what we're going to be gaining 1307 00:45:32,069 --> 00:45:30,560 and the way we're moving forward 1308 00:45:33,510 --> 00:45:32,079 all right we'll take four more questions 1309 00:45:34,710 --> 00:45:33,520 we have two on this side of the room and 1310 00:45:37,030 --> 00:45:34,720 two on this side of the room and then 1311 00:45:40,150 --> 00:45:37,040 we'll call it a day go ahead 1312 00:45:41,990 --> 00:45:40,160 brent houston with the tacoma boyce in 1313 00:45:44,550 --> 00:45:42,000 takoma park maryland 1314 00:45:47,109 --> 00:45:44,560 i as i recall that the mir space station 1315 00:45:49,349 --> 00:45:47,119 was up in orbit for quite a long time 1316 00:45:52,950 --> 00:45:49,359 doing research and it's been quite a 1317 00:45:55,589 --> 00:45:52,960 long venture here in getting the iss 1318 00:45:57,510 --> 00:45:55,599 and now as it's almost completed and 1319 00:45:58,470 --> 00:45:57,520 then to go just 10 more years and it's 1320 00:45:59,589 --> 00:45:58,480 done 1321 00:46:02,950 --> 00:45:59,599 then you're not going to have any 1322 00:46:04,309 --> 00:46:02,960 on-orbit uh space station it's a lot of 1323 00:46:06,870 --> 00:46:04,319 work and the mirror was up there for 1324 00:46:08,230 --> 00:46:06,880 such a long time why is it that it's 1325 00:46:09,190 --> 00:46:08,240 just going to be 10 years and that's all 1326 00:46:11,750 --> 00:46:09,200 you can 1327 00:46:13,589 --> 00:46:11,760 manage return on investment so to speak 1328 00:46:16,230 --> 00:46:13,599 and and kind of the way we've laid it 1329 00:46:18,230 --> 00:46:16,240 out is we've we've looked at it planning 1330 00:46:20,230 --> 00:46:18,240 to go to 2020 but then we're looking to 1331 00:46:23,430 --> 00:46:20,240 see if we can go structurally eight 1332 00:46:24,950 --> 00:46:23,440 years more beyond that to 2028. so what 1333 00:46:27,030 --> 00:46:24,960 we're trying to do is we've got this 1334 00:46:29,190 --> 00:46:27,040 period of time to actually go prove that 1335 00:46:30,950 --> 00:46:29,200 we can get research use the laboratory 1336 00:46:32,390 --> 00:46:30,960 space we have on orbit use the new 1337 00:46:34,390 --> 00:46:32,400 facilities that like the russians have 1338 00:46:35,349 --> 00:46:34,400 brought up and the mrm module on this 1339 00:46:37,030 --> 00:46:35,359 flight 1340 00:46:38,550 --> 00:46:37,040 see what challenge our researchers and 1341 00:46:40,390 --> 00:46:38,560 technologists to see what we can 1342 00:46:41,910 --> 00:46:40,400 actually do in low earth orbit and then 1343 00:46:44,390 --> 00:46:41,920 kind of base our next decision to 1344 00:46:45,990 --> 00:46:44,400 continue beyond that 2020 time frame on 1345 00:46:48,069 --> 00:46:46,000 what kind of research and what kind of 1346 00:46:50,150 --> 00:46:48,079 results we can get back from station so 1347 00:46:51,829 --> 00:46:50,160 i look at this as a kind of a period for 1348 00:46:53,589 --> 00:46:51,839 us to to prove what we can actually do 1349 00:46:55,829 --> 00:46:53,599 in low earth orbit how can be beneficial 1350 00:46:58,470 --> 00:46:55,839 to us help us with engineering we've not 1351 00:47:00,470 --> 00:46:58,480 had a facility of this magnitude with 1352 00:47:02,150 --> 00:47:00,480 the power capability the data capability 1353 00:47:04,230 --> 00:47:02,160 the international involvement 1354 00:47:06,790 --> 00:47:04,240 so far that we can we can see so that's 1355 00:47:08,309 --> 00:47:06,800 that's kind of the overall plan 1356 00:47:10,390 --> 00:47:08,319 i will add that 1357 00:47:11,990 --> 00:47:10,400 the question is absolutely correct 1358 00:47:15,270 --> 00:47:12,000 the 1359 00:47:18,790 --> 00:47:15,280 example with uh space stations is 1360 00:47:20,150 --> 00:47:18,800 is very pictures of the mir spec station 1361 00:47:23,030 --> 00:47:20,160 was 1362 00:47:24,470 --> 00:47:23,040 developed for five year operational 1363 00:47:27,510 --> 00:47:24,480 lifespan 1364 00:47:29,750 --> 00:47:27,520 of orbit and it flew 15 years 1365 00:47:32,470 --> 00:47:29,760 three times more than 1366 00:47:35,910 --> 00:47:32,480 originally designed 1367 00:47:38,309 --> 00:47:35,920 and we designed space station iss 1368 00:47:41,990 --> 00:47:38,319 for 15-year well i spend 1369 00:47:46,069 --> 00:47:44,230 what we are thinking about is potential 1370 00:47:49,270 --> 00:47:46,079 continuation up to 1371 00:47:53,510 --> 00:47:49,280 20 or 30 even years 1372 00:47:56,470 --> 00:47:53,520 up to 2028 it will uh it will be 30-year 1373 00:47:57,910 --> 00:47:56,480 operational uh for a lifetime 1374 00:47:59,910 --> 00:47:57,920 whether we will 1375 00:48:01,510 --> 00:47:59,920 make it that's a challenge and that's 1376 00:48:03,829 --> 00:48:01,520 ritual investment which you are talking 1377 00:48:06,710 --> 00:48:03,839 about it's absolutely correct it's a 1378 00:48:09,750 --> 00:48:06,720 lengthy and difficult process 1379 00:48:10,790 --> 00:48:09,760 to assemble such a structure of touchier 1380 00:48:12,950 --> 00:48:10,800 for 1381 00:48:14,230 --> 00:48:12,960 size and capabilities it's very 1382 00:48:17,270 --> 00:48:14,240 expensive 1383 00:48:18,069 --> 00:48:17,280 and to use it up to the 1384 00:48:19,190 --> 00:48:18,079 uh 1385 00:48:21,270 --> 00:48:19,200 level 1386 00:48:24,710 --> 00:48:21,280 uh and capacity 1387 00:48:26,950 --> 00:48:24,720 until it is safe and proven to be uh 1388 00:48:29,190 --> 00:48:26,960 operable that that is a goal i believe 1389 00:48:32,309 --> 00:48:29,200 and we will pursue this goal and we have 1390 00:48:34,470 --> 00:48:32,319 a uh the unanimous understanding of all 1391 00:48:37,030 --> 00:48:34,480 partners on on this point 1392 00:48:41,910 --> 00:48:39,270 peter railwood southern fm in australia 1393 00:48:44,150 --> 00:48:41,920 a question for mr gerstenmaier given the 1394 00:48:45,670 --> 00:48:44,160 unclear nature of the types of vehicles 1395 00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:45,680 that may be coming up to the 1396 00:48:49,349 --> 00:48:47,520 international space station 1397 00:48:50,950 --> 00:48:49,359 up until the year 2020 1398 00:48:52,710 --> 00:48:50,960 and the fact that when the shuttle 1399 00:48:54,710 --> 00:48:52,720 finishes flying you'll lose that very 1400 00:48:57,670 --> 00:48:54,720 large payload capacity is it 1401 00:48:59,349 --> 00:48:57,680 consideration of leaving large 1402 00:49:01,670 --> 00:48:59,359 items that go up on the shuttle anyway 1403 00:49:04,069 --> 00:49:01,680 like the orbital blue sensor system 1404 00:49:06,470 --> 00:49:04,079 leaving that one of those up on the on 1405 00:49:08,710 --> 00:49:06,480 the space station for perhaps use for 1406 00:49:09,750 --> 00:49:08,720 access and inspection later on yep and 1407 00:49:11,589 --> 00:49:09,760 we're going to do that you're going to 1408 00:49:13,190 --> 00:49:11,599 see on one of the upcoming flights i 1409 00:49:15,270 --> 00:49:13,200 don't remember which one exactly but the 1410 00:49:17,430 --> 00:49:15,280 boom gets left on orbit we actually 1411 00:49:19,190 --> 00:49:17,440 modified some area out on the outside of 1412 00:49:21,510 --> 00:49:19,200 station to actually attach it to the 1413 00:49:23,589 --> 00:49:21,520 outside so the boom will get left we've 1414 00:49:24,870 --> 00:49:23,599 deployed control moment gyros all ready 1415 00:49:26,950 --> 00:49:24,880 to station they're sitting out on 1416 00:49:28,549 --> 00:49:26,960 pallets already stored 1417 00:49:30,309 --> 00:49:28,559 so we've done exactly what you said 1418 00:49:32,309 --> 00:49:30,319 we've taken all the unique items that 1419 00:49:35,510 --> 00:49:32,319 could truly fly on the shuttle even as 1420 00:49:37,829 --> 00:49:35,520 alexis said the european robotic arm it 1421 00:49:39,349 --> 00:49:37,839 it's attached to the mrm module 1422 00:49:41,270 --> 00:49:39,359 specifically because it can fit in the 1423 00:49:43,430 --> 00:49:41,280 shuttle bay and we use that so we are 1424 00:49:45,270 --> 00:49:43,440 truly using the unique capability of the 1425 00:49:46,950 --> 00:49:45,280 shuttle to position all those unique 1426 00:49:49,190 --> 00:49:46,960 items on station so we're prepared for a 1427 00:49:50,790 --> 00:49:49,200 long lifetime 1428 00:49:52,790 --> 00:49:50,800 chris uh chris gaberhardt again with 1429 00:49:55,349 --> 00:49:52,800 nasa spaceflight.com um 1430 00:49:56,790 --> 00:49:55,359 in question regarding the possible 1431 00:49:58,390 --> 00:49:56,800 debris avoidance maneuver the station 1432 00:49:59,589 --> 00:49:58,400 might have to do if you do find 1433 00:50:01,349 --> 00:49:59,599 yourselves in a situation where that has 1434 00:50:04,549 --> 00:50:01,359 to be done i assume it would be before 1435 00:50:06,549 --> 00:50:04,559 atlantis arrives on sunday and and if so 1436 00:50:07,910 --> 00:50:06,559 um is there a corresponding burn 1437 00:50:09,910 --> 00:50:07,920 atlantis would have to do to sort of 1438 00:50:13,030 --> 00:50:09,920 keep in plane with the station or a 1439 00:50:15,750 --> 00:50:13,040 tweak to the nc or ti burns or would she 1440 00:50:18,150 --> 00:50:15,760 or would the burn on the station just 1441 00:50:20,549 --> 00:50:18,160 keep atlantis on course no problem we'll 1442 00:50:22,069 --> 00:50:20,559 we'll do the burn on the station to 1443 00:50:23,990 --> 00:50:22,079 avoid the debris 1444 00:50:26,630 --> 00:50:24,000 and then we you know we calculate the 1445 00:50:28,710 --> 00:50:26,640 actual trajectory for the burns the the 1446 00:50:30,710 --> 00:50:28,720 burns on shuttle and those will get 1447 00:50:32,950 --> 00:50:30,720 calculated based on a new position of 1448 00:50:34,309 --> 00:50:32,960 where station got moved to so they will 1449 00:50:36,390 --> 00:50:34,319 change from where they are planned now 1450 00:50:38,230 --> 00:50:36,400 they typically change anyway as we get 1451 00:50:40,309 --> 00:50:38,240 tracking data we see where the station's 1452 00:50:41,990 --> 00:50:40,319 going we see how the shuttle's doing so 1453 00:50:43,589 --> 00:50:42,000 we'll tweak those up as we go in so 1454 00:50:45,510 --> 00:50:43,599 it'll be just kind of almost standard 1455 00:50:47,270 --> 00:50:45,520 ops but we'll make sure that where we 1456 00:50:49,430 --> 00:50:47,280 move station isn't so far that it can't 1457 00:50:52,069 --> 00:50:49,440 be compensated by the shuttle rendezvous 1458 00:50:54,230 --> 00:50:52,079 capability so we'll we'll maneuver just 1459 00:50:55,829 --> 00:50:54,240 enough to avoid the debris but still be 1460 00:50:58,470 --> 00:50:55,839 in a good posture that the burns can be 1461 00:50:59,349 --> 00:50:58,480 accommodated easily with the shuttle 1462 00:51:03,349 --> 00:50:59,359 jim 1463 00:51:05,990 --> 00:51:03,359 independent newspaper i was particularly 1464 00:51:08,790 --> 00:51:06,000 interested in the plans that alexi 1465 00:51:11,910 --> 00:51:08,800 described for some of the russian 1466 00:51:13,190 --> 00:51:11,920 activities through 2020 and beyond 1467 00:51:14,870 --> 00:51:13,200 going beyond 1468 00:51:16,309 --> 00:51:14,880 low earth orbit and so on and i wondered 1469 00:51:19,270 --> 00:51:16,319 to what extent 1470 00:51:21,510 --> 00:51:19,280 those plans are coordinated 1471 00:51:23,829 --> 00:51:21,520 with the united states or with nasa as 1472 00:51:25,589 --> 00:51:23,839 opposed to being 1473 00:51:30,069 --> 00:51:25,599 rushed pretty much russian plans and 1474 00:51:30,079 --> 00:51:34,470 it's an easy and difficult question 1475 00:51:40,150 --> 00:51:37,349 they're easy because uh for 1476 00:51:41,430 --> 00:51:40,160 certainly each each nation uh for which 1477 00:51:43,270 --> 00:51:41,440 he has uh 1478 00:51:44,390 --> 00:51:43,280 its own space program 1479 00:51:45,670 --> 00:51:44,400 uh 1480 00:51:47,990 --> 00:51:45,680 he is 1481 00:51:49,670 --> 00:51:48,000 determining the way to pursue space 1482 00:51:51,750 --> 00:51:49,680 exploration 1483 00:51:53,750 --> 00:51:51,760 how much international it could be 1484 00:51:57,750 --> 00:51:53,760 that's a good question and uh 1485 00:51:59,030 --> 00:51:57,760 what is this successor for iss 1486 00:52:00,710 --> 00:51:59,040 scale 1487 00:52:03,109 --> 00:52:00,720 project could be 1488 00:52:04,710 --> 00:52:03,119 uh we don't know and i believe it will 1489 00:52:05,910 --> 00:52:04,720 be an agenda for 1490 00:52:09,030 --> 00:52:05,920 for for 1491 00:52:11,190 --> 00:52:09,040 at least a partnership of the iss 1492 00:52:14,390 --> 00:52:11,200 to consider 1493 00:52:16,790 --> 00:52:14,400 because iss provided a very good lessons 1494 00:52:18,470 --> 00:52:16,800 learned uh for from the operational 1495 00:52:20,150 --> 00:52:18,480 standpoint from the 1496 00:52:22,069 --> 00:52:20,160 technical standpoint and technology 1497 00:52:23,190 --> 00:52:22,079 standpoint 1498 00:52:29,910 --> 00:52:23,200 we 1499 00:52:33,670 --> 00:52:29,920 right to 1500 00:52:35,990 --> 00:52:33,680 be in our plans for human space flight 1501 00:52:37,430 --> 00:52:36,000 i cannot speak for my colleagues who as 1502 00:52:51,430 --> 00:52:37,440 a 1503 00:52:55,589 --> 00:52:53,430 perspective 1504 00:52:58,150 --> 00:52:55,599 the budgetary 1505 00:52:59,990 --> 00:52:58,160 things which will influence such 1506 00:53:04,150 --> 00:53:00,000 initiatives 1507 00:53:05,109 --> 00:53:04,160 and how to combine those goals 1508 00:53:06,790 --> 00:53:05,119 let's see 1509 00:53:08,950 --> 00:53:06,800 it's a it's a very interesting question 1510 00:53:10,870 --> 00:53:08,960 which you raised and uh for 1511 00:53:13,030 --> 00:53:10,880 i do understand that some of those 1512 00:53:15,109 --> 00:53:13,040 issues will be discussed uh 1513 00:53:16,390 --> 00:53:15,119 within the 1514 00:53:18,309 --> 00:53:16,400 this year 1515 00:53:20,549 --> 00:53:18,319 space agency forum 1516 00:53:24,069 --> 00:53:20,559 which is being planned for 1517 00:53:27,109 --> 00:53:24,079 washington in in november 1518 00:53:32,309 --> 00:53:27,119 under the u.n umbrella 1519 00:53:38,150 --> 00:53:35,910 absorb what would be said from our 1520 00:53:40,829 --> 00:53:38,160 colleagues from different nations 1521 00:53:44,230 --> 00:53:40,839 on this on this point thank 1522 00:53:45,349 --> 00:53:44,240 you okay with that we're going to 1523 00:53:46,950 --> 00:53:45,359 wrap it up 1524 00:53:48,710 --> 00:53:46,960 i wanted to pass on to you that we have 1525 00:53:51,270 --> 00:53:48,720 a slight modification to the mission 1526 00:53:54,230 --> 00:53:51,280 landing time the sts-132 1527 00:53:57,270 --> 00:53:54,240 mission now will land at 8 46 a.m 1528 00:53:58,950 --> 00:53:57,280 eastern time on may 26th and that change 1529 00:54:00,870 --> 00:53:58,960 and any others will be reflected in the 1530 00:54:01,910 --> 00:54:00,880 nasa tv schedule which you can always 1531 00:54:05,349 --> 00:54:01,920 find 1532 00:54:08,309 --> 00:54:06,870 shuttle tv 1533 00:54:09,910 --> 00:54:08,319 and of course you can keep up with all 1534 00:54:12,230 --> 00:54:09,920 the activities on our website at 1535 00:54:13,190 --> 00:54:12,240 www.nasa.gov 1536 00:54:14,069 --> 00:54:13,200 shuttle 1537 00:54:15,910 --> 00:54:14,079 and 1538 00:54:18,230 --> 00:54:15,920 follow the whole mission live on nasa 1539 00:54:19,750 --> 00:54:18,240 television so we will exit now and head